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Bledisloe 2

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @Bones thats not what i said

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Bones thats not what i said

    ok

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

      I have always just seen a difference between

      "im going to tackle this knee"

      and

      "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

      That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

      These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

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      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

      I have always just seen a difference between

      "im going to tackle this knee"

      and

      "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

      That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

      These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

      For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

        I have always just seen a difference between

        "im going to tackle this knee"

        and

        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

        That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

        These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

        For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

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        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

        @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

        I have always just seen a difference between

        "im going to tackle this knee"

        and

        "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

        That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

        These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

        For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

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        • M Machpants

          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

          @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Bones said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Crucial no, i would say very very few people actually think...im going to injury this guy

          I have always just seen a difference between

          "im going to tackle this knee"

          and

          "im watching the ball....watching...watching...of shit where did you come from?"

          That guy jumping in the air you talk about is doing it deliberately without care.

          These guys are the best in the business. They know exactly what they are doing

          For a moment there I thought you were talking about the judiciary 😅

          alt text

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          #132

          @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

            Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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            • M Machpants

              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

              @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

              Riiiiiiiiight. BBBR broken cheek and an upended Beaudy says you're talking arse

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              @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

              The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

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                @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                  The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

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                  @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                  The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

                  I was talking about the frog a few years ago. And wrong

                  DISCIPLINARY UPDATE: A citing complaint against Ireland prop Andrew Porter for an act of foul play has been dismissed by an independent judicial committee.
                  Porter was cited on Monday for the high tackle which broke the cheekbone of New Zealand lock Brodie Retallick during last weekend’s series-clinching 32-22 victory over the All Blacks.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                    Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                    Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

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                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                    Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                    Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                    Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Machpants BBBR = the Irishman got yellow. Never reached the Judiciary.

                      The decision and 4-week suspension of Arendse was entirely predictable and totally consistent with the Regulations and how they are consistently applied.

                      I was talking about the frog a few years ago. And wrong

                      DISCIPLINARY UPDATE: A citing complaint against Ireland prop Andrew Porter for an act of foul play has been dismissed by an independent judicial committee.
                      Porter was cited on Monday for the high tackle which broke the cheekbone of New Zealand lock Brodie Retallick during last weekend’s series-clinching 32-22 victory over the All Blacks.

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                      @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                        Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                        Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                        Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

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                        Crucial
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                        #139

                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                        Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                        Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                        Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

                        Still just a start point. There may be minimums for some acts but still the refs pass plenty onto the panel

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

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                          @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

                          And lawyers. They help to get a surprising outcome.

                          Serious question: did you think Porter would get off from that head high tackle? Do you think it reached the RC threshold in light of Ta'avo the week before?

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @Machpants That's a misconception that keeps on popping up. The Judiciary is not a lottery at all. The officiating is, and whether someone is cited maybe, too, but the Regulations and how they are applied are quite clear.

                            Up to the point where they pull some shit out about the player telling his mum how much shame he feels so we will reduce the regulated ban.
                            Start points are also totally at the panel discretion.

                            Incorrect. If there's head contact, the minimum starting point is always mid-range.

                            Still just a start point. There may be minimums for some acts but still the refs pass plenty onto the panel

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                            @Crucial And, the rulings have been so predictable, that everyone knows about those bullshit reasons that are used as mititgation, so that most player get a 50% deduction from the entry point used.

                            I'm not saying that I agree with all decisions, or with how the Regs are applied in all cases, but it's bs to say that it's a lottery. It's not. In most cases, once you know a player has been cited under a certain provision, you know what decisions will be once he has been found guilty of the offence. They're very consistent, unlike officiating.

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

                              And lawyers. They help to get a surprising outcome.

                              Serious question: did you think Porter would get off from that head high tackle? Do you think it reached the RC threshold in light of Ta'avo the week before?

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                              @nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Machpants Okay, that disciplinary update isn't on SANZAAR's website. Still don't think it's a lottery. They have their own guidelines and they have camera angles that we don't get to see.

                              And lawyers. They help to get a surprising outcome.

                              Serious question: did you think Porter would get off from that head high tackle? Do you think it reached the RC threshold in light of Ta'avo the week before?

                              There are always exceptions to the rule.

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                                How tone deaf is this tweet?

                                https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1572117353432633344

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  How tone deaf is this tweet?

                                  https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1572117353432633344

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                                  @Stargazer this is pretty standard victim mentality from RA.

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                                    @Stargazer this is pretty standard victim mentality from RA.

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                                    @Frye said in Bledisloe 2:

                                    @Stargazer this is pretty standard victim mentality from RA.

                                    All Blacks not only control the refs, we control the judiciary as well.

                                    So when Swain cops a ban, it's because we did it

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      How tone deaf is this tweet?

                                      https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1572117353432633344

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                                      @Stargazer that’s a shocker.
                                      Even Rennie has a big chip of gumtree on his shoulder claiming it wasn’t even a yellow.
                                      Maybe the mantra this week is all about playing the victim that fights back.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Stargazer that’s a shocker.
                                        Even Rennie has a big chip of gumtree on his shoulder claiming it wasn’t even a yellow.
                                        Maybe the mantra this week is all about playing the victim that fights back.

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                                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Stargazer that’s a shocker.
                                        Even Rennie has a big chip of gumtree on his shoulder claiming it wasn’t even a yellow.
                                        Maybe the mantra this week is all about playing the victim that fights back.

                                        #Cheikastyle

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          https://twitter.com/ChristypDoran/status/1571985162531110912?s=20&t=nXKu3etnpPDBcLpgz8uS3w

                                          Nearly a week later? Can't think that Rennie will be pleased with not knowing if a player is available.

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                                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                          https://twitter.com/ChristypDoran/status/1571985162531110912?s=20&t=nXKu3etnpPDBcLpgz8uS3w

                                          Nearly a week later? Can't think that Rennie will be pleased with not knowing if a player is available.

                                          As long as it doesn't make Rennie 'bloody angry' again.

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