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  • D DaGrubster

    @cgrant

    Our defence has been pretty poor for a few years. It is too passive, the defence system can be broken down and and we don’t have enough urgency in defence.

    Before the 2 sackings this year, people were calling for McLeod to be replaced last year.

    I’m not truly up to speed with other coaches we have in Nz. Is there any Defensive coach in NZ that would be an improvement?

    Defence seems like an area that we could go outside NZ to get an individual to improve our defensive ability.

    We are improving from the horror start of the season but defence is one of the biggest weakness we have.

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    #3505

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @cgrant

    Our defence has been pretty poor for a few years. It is too passive, the defence system can be broken down and and we don’t have enough urgency in defence.

    Before the 2 sackings this year, people were calling for McLeod to be replaced last year.

    I’m not truly up to speed with other coaches we have in Nz. Is there any Defensive coach in NZ that would be an improvement?

    Defence seems like an area that we could go outside NZ to get an individual to improve our defensive ability.

    We are improving from the horror start of the season but defence is one of the biggest weakness we have.

    Wayne Smith did very well in that job.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Nepia said in Foster:

      @nzzp said in Foster:

      @voodoo said in Foster:

      @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

      Rennie
      Joseph
      Brown
      Cotter
      Schmidt

      I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

      Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

      why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

      You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

      There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

      And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

      Fuck that

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      #3506

      @mariner4life said in Foster:

      @Nepia said in Foster:

      @nzzp said in Foster:

      @voodoo said in Foster:

      @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

      Rennie
      Joseph
      Brown
      Cotter
      Schmidt

      I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

      Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

      why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

      You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

      There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

      And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

      Fuck that

      Same as people who join the SAS, or climb stupid cliff faces without gear, or who do 50 marathons in 50 days - gotta have that attitude

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      • D DaGrubster

        @cgrant

        Our defence has been pretty poor for a few years. It is too passive, the defence system can be broken down and and we don’t have enough urgency in defence.

        Before the 2 sackings this year, people were calling for McLeod to be replaced last year.

        I’m not truly up to speed with other coaches we have in Nz. Is there any Defensive coach in NZ that would be an improvement?

        Defence seems like an area that we could go outside NZ to get an individual to improve our defensive ability.

        We are improving from the horror start of the season but defence is one of the biggest weakness we have.

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        #3507

        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

        @cgrant

        Our defence has been pretty poor for a few years. It is too passive, the defence system can be broken down and and we don’t have enough urgency in defence.

        Before the 2 sackings this year, people were calling for McLeod to be replaced last year.

        I’m not truly up to speed with other coaches we have in Nz. Is there any Defensive coach in NZ that would be an improvement?

        Defence seems like an area that we could go outside NZ to get an individual to improve our defensive ability.

        We are improving from the horror start of the season but defence is one of the biggest weakness we have.

        Hiring a League coach seems de rigueur for this role

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Nepia said in Foster:

          @nzzp said in Foster:

          @voodoo said in Foster:

          @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

          Rennie
          Joseph
          Brown
          Cotter
          Schmidt

          I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

          Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

          why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

          You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

          There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

          And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

          Fuck that

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          #3508

          @mariner4life said in Foster:

          @Nepia said in Foster:

          @nzzp said in Foster:

          @voodoo said in Foster:

          @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

          Rennie
          Joseph
          Brown
          Cotter
          Schmidt

          I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

          Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).

          why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet

          You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.

          There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ

          And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"

          Fuck that

          Bang on.
          It can be shit being one of those fans as well and searching for enjoyment.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @voodoo said in Foster:

            @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

            Rennie
            Joseph
            Brown
            Cotter
            Schmidt

            I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

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            #3509

            @nzzp said in Foster:

            @voodoo said in Foster:

            @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

            Rennie
            Joseph
            Brown
            Cotter
            Schmidt

            I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

            Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

            Did we really try to get Cotter?

            I dont think anyone those guys were sought after but we couldn't get them cos money

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            • voodooV voodoo

              @nzzp said in Foster:

              @voodoo said in Foster:

              @DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?

              Rennie
              Joseph
              Brown
              Cotter
              Schmidt

              I'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.

              Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

              Did we really try to get Cotter?

              I dont think anyone those guys were sought after but we couldn't get them cos money

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              Machpants
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              #3510

              @voodoo said in Foster:

              Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

              Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

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              • M Machpants

                @voodoo said in Foster:

                Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

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                #3511

                @Machpants said in Foster:

                @voodoo said in Foster:

                Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  @Machpants said in Foster:

                  @voodoo said in Foster:

                  Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                  Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                  Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                  Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

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                  wrote on last edited by Machpants
                  #3512

                  @voodoo said in Foster:

                  @Machpants said in Foster:

                  @voodoo said in Foster:

                  Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                  Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                  Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                  Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                  So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying". I'm not talking about money, but your statement they were told not to bother

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                  • M Machpants

                    @voodoo said in Foster:

                    @Machpants said in Foster:

                    @voodoo said in Foster:

                    Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                    Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                    Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                    Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                    So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying". I'm not talking about money, but your statement they were told not to bother

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                    #3513

                    @Machpants said in Foster:

                    @voodoo said in Foster:

                    @Machpants said in Foster:

                    @voodoo said in Foster:

                    Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                    Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                    Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                    Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                    So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying"

                    The process gave them no shot and they knew it. NZR had every chance to do it differently but didnt.

                    Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                      @voodoo said in Foster:

                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                      @voodoo said in Foster:

                      Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                      Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                      Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                      Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                      So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying"

                      The process gave them no shot and they knew it. NZR had every chance to do it differently but didnt.

                      Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

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                      #3514

                      @voodoo said in Foster:

                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                      @voodoo said in Foster:

                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                      @voodoo said in Foster:

                      Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                      Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                      Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                      Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                      So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying"

                      The process gave them no shot and they knew it. NZR had every chance to do it differently but didnt.

                      Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

                      The point is they were not told not to apply. They decided not to, as NZR are useless fluffybunnies and they thought it was obvious the result would go, but that's very different from being told not to apply directly.

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                      • D DaGrubster

                        @Victor-Meldrew

                        On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                        Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                        Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                        If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                        Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                        The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                        There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

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                        junior
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                        #3515

                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                        @Victor-Meldrew

                        On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                        Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                        Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                        If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                        Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                        The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                        There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                        I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

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                        • J junior

                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                          @Victor-Meldrew

                          On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                          Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                          Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                          If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                          Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                          The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                          There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                          I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

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                          #3516

                          @junior said in Foster:

                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                          @Victor-Meldrew

                          On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                          Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                          Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                          If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                          Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                          The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                          There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                          I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                          Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

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                          • M Machpants

                            @junior said in Foster:

                            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                            @Victor-Meldrew

                            On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                            Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                            Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                            If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                            Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                            The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                            There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                            I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                            Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

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                            Crucial
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3517

                            @Machpants said in Foster:

                            @junior said in Foster:

                            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                            @Victor-Meldrew

                            On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                            Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                            Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                            If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                            Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                            The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                            There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                            I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                            Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

                            Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              @Machpants said in Foster:

                              @voodoo said in Foster:

                              @Machpants said in Foster:

                              @voodoo said in Foster:

                              Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying. We never sought Rennie in time. Schmidt was out.

                              Um what? Brown said he turned down both Foster and Razor, Joseph decided on Japan (early same as Rennie). 26 candidates were invited

                              Brown wanted to work with Joseph, didn't say he wanted more money.

                              Joseph and Rennnie both had no shot and they knew it. Timing and process, nothing to do with coin

                              So they were asked to apply but didn't. That's the opposite of "Joseph and Brown we told to not bother applying"

                              The process gave them no shot and they knew it. NZR had every chance to do it differently but didnt.

                              Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

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                              @voodoo said in Foster:

                              Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

                              Huh - I thought the question was people we'd like back but we cuodln't afford. I'd love all those people on the list to be coaching in NZ, but we can't afford to pay them international rates. And they probably wouldn't come anyway.

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @voodoo said in Foster:

                                Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

                                Huh - I thought the question was people we'd like back but we cuodln't afford. I'd love all those people on the list to be coaching in NZ, but we can't afford to pay them international rates. And they probably wouldn't come anyway.

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                                @nzzp said in Foster:

                                @voodoo said in Foster:

                                Anyway, it's not the point. The point is that we haven't lost anyone to money when we wanted them back

                                Huh - I thought the question was people we'd like back but we cuodln't afford. I'd love all those people on the list to be coaching in NZ, but we can't afford to pay them international rates. And they probably wouldn't come anyway.

                                Maybe i misread, but I read it as people we would like to have back coaching the Ab's but we failed to get because we couldn't afford them. And that's none of those as far as I can see.

                                As to whether we would want them all back coaching in Nz, I'd challenge that too. Do you think Scmidt learned more coaching Ireland than he would have staying coaching Bay of Plenty or the Chiefs?

                                I dont necessarily buy into the "must have international experience before coaching the AB's" mantra, but I certainly don't see the harm in having a cohort coach offshore. The chance to coach in that environment, withbthat budget those quality players, to build a team around you, learn the media experience etc. Amd it also gives other younger coaches the chance to come through at NPC/Super level as assistants and HCs.

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                                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                  @cgrant

                                  Our defence has been pretty poor for a few years. It is too passive, the defence system can be broken down and and we don’t have enough urgency in defence.

                                  Before the 2 sackings this year, people were calling for McLeod to be replaced last year.

                                  I’m not truly up to speed with other coaches we have in Nz. Is there any Defensive coach in NZ that would be an improvement?

                                  Defence seems like an area that we could go outside NZ to get an individual to improve our defensive ability.

                                  We are improving from the horror start of the season but defence is one of the biggest weakness we have.

                                  Hiring a League coach seems de rigueur for this role

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                                  @Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.

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                                    @Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.

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                                    @SBW1 said in Foster:

                                    @Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.

                                    Can't poach all of Razor's assistants!

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                                      Foster just can't let go of any players or old strategies, can he? Friggen stubborn ole fella!

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                                        @Machpants said in Foster:

                                        @junior said in Foster:

                                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew

                                        On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                                        Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                                        Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                                        If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                                        Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                                        The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                                        There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                                        I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                                        Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

                                        Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.

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                                        @Crucial said in Foster:

                                        @Machpants said in Foster:

                                        @junior said in Foster:

                                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew

                                        On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                                        Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                                        Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                                        If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                                        Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                                        The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                                        There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                                        I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                                        Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

                                        Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.

                                        Explains why you post here regularly...

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                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Machpants said in Foster:

                                          @junior said in Foster:

                                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                                          Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                                          Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                                          If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                                          Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                                          The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                                          There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                                          I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                                          Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

                                          Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.

                                          Explains why you post here regularly...

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster:

                                          @Crucial said in Foster:

                                          @Machpants said in Foster:

                                          @junior said in Foster:

                                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.

                                          Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.

                                          Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.

                                          If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.

                                          Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.

                                          The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.

                                          There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.

                                          I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.

                                          Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them

                                          Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.

                                          Explains why you post here regularly...

                                          No. I come here to sneer at you lot, not to admire.

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