European Club Rugby
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@KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:
A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.
Was tense but not absorbing. Sadly.
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@KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:
A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.
Two best defensive teams. They already comprehensively beat the teams with attacking nous in the semis. But at least Saracens lost
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NH club recap (two notable Finals still to be played):
Top League One champions 2022:
Saitama Wild Knights
Premiership champions 2022:
Leicester Tigers
United Rugby Championship winners 2022:
Stormers
Pro D2 champions 2022:
Aviron Bayonnais
European Champions Cup winners 2022:
La Rochelle
European Challenge Cup winners 2022:
Lyon
Top 14 Final to be played on Sat 25 June 2022 (6.45am NZT) between Castres Olympique and the winner of Montpellier v Bordeaux.
Major League Rugby Final to be played on Sun 26 June 2022 (4.00am NZT). Finalists to be decided this weekend.
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@KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:
A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.
Wayne Barnes back to his best. First minute:
"Knock on, advantage. Advantage Over" Blows whistle. "Forward pass, we're going back to the knock on". -
@antipodean said in NH club rugby:
@KiwiMurph said in NH club rugby:
A box kick a thon final between Leicester and Saracens in seemingly perfect rugby conditions.
Wayne Barnes back to his best. First minute:
"Knock on, advantage. Advantage Over" Blows whistle. "Forward pass, we're going back to the knock on".Wayne Barnes, surely not?
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final pre-season game
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Wasps seem to be in deep do-do. My old company accountant played centre for them decades ago and always thought the business model was decidedly flaky.
Wasps players learn of notice to appoint administrator through social media
The club's financial future has been under scrutiny ever since a deadline was missed in May to repay £35 million back to bondholders
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Worcester ordered to fix crisis or face suspension from all competitions
Worcester have been set two deadlines amid a warning from the Rugby Football Union that they will be suspended from all competitions on Monday if they are unable to fulfil three criteria
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So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?
Interested in your thoughts on how this leaves English rugby. Will this impact the RFU/Big Clubs power balance? Good thing or bad thing long-term?
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Been the elephant in the room since the start of professionalism
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I wish I knew mate. The current situation is clearly unsustainable but what is the alternative? Exeter are the only Premiership club that regularly turns a profit and then only just. They have a very good conferencing set of facilities to assist in the finances but by the cringe it is a fucking expensive day out on match day. A good seat in the West Stand is up to £90! Add in the most expensive beer and pasties and it all mounts up to a painful experience.
It seems to me that there is not enough money in the domestic game to sustain the standards that fans have come to expect. Of course we have the cash cow that is the National side but that is not enough to spread around. More tv money might help I guess. One thing is for sure, we’re going to run out of sugar daddies sometime.
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
So Wasps and Worcester looking very, very shaky. Seems like the typical Premiership business model of having a sugar daddy funding a loss making club isn't that sound. Who'd have thought?
It's the same through Europe isn't it? The football model without the massive marketing/TV/merch opportunities.
Our more commie model isn't perfect but it seems a bit more sustainable in that matching spending to income is the driver and more controlled.
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France looks pretty much the same to me, though can’t say much about Italy.
The NZ model definitely seems much more sustainable but that’s dependent I guess on how long the money train runs up here.
I’m pretty conflicted as I’m pleased with our more sustained competitiveness internationally, if not always our style of play. On the other hand there is the degree of attrition on the players and the money related mess.
I wish I knew how it will pan out.
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@Catogrande said in NH club rugby:
France looks pretty much the same to me, though can’t say much about Italy.
The NZ model definitely seems much more sustainable but that’s dependent I guess on how long the money train runs up here.
I’m pretty conflicted as I’m pleased with our more sustained competitiveness internationally, if not always our style of play. On the other hand there is the degree of attrition on the players and the money related mess.
I wish I knew how it will pan out.
Really? I thought France were better off with a huge TV deal, and stadiums they don't pay for. And two fully Pro leagues, unlike the appalling situation in the championship in England? But I don't really keep on top of French rugby, apart from watching Heineken cup
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I think there’s much in what you say but there is also a certain level of dependency on rich owners, with Toulon being the stand out example albeit not to the previous level.
At least that’s my understanding.
