Foster, Robertson etc
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@Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.
@Machpants Tamati Ellison did a pretty good job at the Crusaders this year.
Can't poach all of Razor's assistants!
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Foster just can't let go of any players or old strategies, can he? Friggen stubborn ole fella!
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.
Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.
Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.
If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.
Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.
The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.
There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.
I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.
Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them
Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.
@Machpants said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.
Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.
Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.
If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.
Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.
The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.
There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.
I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.
Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them
Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.
Explains why you post here regularly...
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.
Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.
Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.
If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.
Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.
The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.
There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.
I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.
Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them
Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.
Explains why you post here regularly...
@nostrildamus said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
@DaGrubster said in Foster:
On the Razor front, I’m not surprised that he didn’t want to do an assistant role.
Just as some people are suited to assistant coach roles and not head coach , the same is true for some people suited to head coach roles and not assistant coach.
Razor is a head coach through and through and regarded as one of the best in the world at the moment. He doesn’t have the specialist focus/knowledge that someone like a Jason Ryan brings to the forward coaching role.
If the rumour (that seems to be accepted as truth) that he was offered the AB head coach role last month, only to be rescinded, then I can’t imagine he would then accept an assistant role.
Personally, I think that he is a generational talent that will eventually be regarded as one of the great coaches, so we should secure him at all costs.
The reality of the situation is that we will probably lose him to a NH nation such as England and like so many NZ coaches before, cannot afford to lure him back due to $’s, timing and probably a complete lack of feeling wanted.
There is also the perception that he is not the type of persona the NZR want for their flagship brand.
I just cannot fathom how NZR would consider that a guy like Fozzie has the personality to lead one of the world's leading sports brands.
Cos they are a similar type of boring as blancmange corporate types - people like those who are like them
Now I finally understand why I like intelligent and good looking people.
Explains why you post here regularly...
No. I come here to sneer at you lot, not to admire.
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I have read comments in this thread along the lines of it is a tough job, I would not want the job, we shouldn't expect to win all the time. What a bunch of softcocks!!! This is the All Blacks, we have the best winning percentage of any team in the history of professional sports. I have given up on bagging the moron, because the NZR continue to select him. But these bullshit posts are fucken cringeworthy.
And this other shit about affording $$$$ Coaches. If the NZR had given the best coach in the world the job we wouldn't be having this issue. I am hoping we beat all international teams but I don't have the confidence in the ABs I once had.
We got out.of jail last week not because of AB brilliance but Foley is a fuckwit and the right call was made. -
I have read comments in this thread along the lines of it is a tough job, I would not want the job, we shouldn't expect to win all the time. What a bunch of softcocks!!! This is the All Blacks, we have the best winning percentage of any team in the history of professional sports. I have given up on bagging the moron, because the NZR continue to select him. But these bullshit posts are fucken cringeworthy.
And this other shit about affording $$$$ Coaches. If the NZR had given the best coach in the world the job we wouldn't be having this issue. I am hoping we beat all international teams but I don't have the confidence in the ABs I once had.
We got out.of jail last week not because of AB brilliance but Foley is a fuckwit and the right call was made.If the NZR had given the best coach in the world the job we wouldn't be having this issue.
Who might that be?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:
If the NZR had given the best coach in the world the job we wouldn't be having this issue.
Who might that be?
Do you people not read my rugby insights?
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@DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?
Rennie
Joseph
Brown
Cotter
SchmidtI'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.
Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).
why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet
You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.
There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ
And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"
Fuck that
@mariner4life said in Foster:
@DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?
Rennie
Joseph
Brown
Cotter
SchmidtI'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.
Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).
why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet
You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.
There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ
And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"
Fuck that
Because some people have drive, ambition, desire to be the best to prove to the world they are the best and take on the biggest challenge they can?
Weirdos.
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@mariner4life said in Foster:
@DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?
Rennie
Joseph
Brown
Cotter
SchmidtI'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.
Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).
why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet
You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.
There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ
And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"
Fuck that
Because some people have drive, ambition, desire to be the best to prove to the world they are the best and take on the biggest challenge they can?
Weirdos.
@MajorRage said in Foster:
@mariner4life said in Foster:
@DaGrubster just to challenge one point, how many coaches have we lost offshore and wanted back but not been able to afford them?
Rennie
Joseph
Brown
Cotter
SchmidtI'd take any of them, but they wouldn't take a pay cut to come back. Folk aren't coming back to coach in NZ for money.
Huh? I think all of them would take a pay cut to coach the ABs without a second thought (aside from Brown who doesn't appear to want a head coach role and Schmidt who is already back and doesn't want the role for family reasons, apparently).
why the fuck would anyone want the job for any money? Being the AB coach is the shittest coaching gig on the planet
You are expected to win every game. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin. You are expected to win every game by a decent margin while playing free flowing football, while at the same time nailing the basics and being pragmatic.
There are never more than a couple of teams you are allowed to lose to without vociferous calls for your head. None of those losses are ever allowed in NZ
And if you win? everyone shrugs and says "of course you did, you are the ABs"
Fuck that
Because some people have drive, ambition, desire to be the best to prove to the world they are the best and take on the biggest challenge they can?
Weirdos.
Way to make it serious
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@Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.
@Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.
Absolutely. So good he doesn't need to actually coach a Test team to be the world's best.
The Chuck Norris of Rugby coaches, I tell you.
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The Crusaders would get torn a new one by Ireland, South Africa and Argentina.
I am not so sure on that.
I am. They don't even have a forwards coach.
They do Dave Perrin, Jason Ryan’s apprentice he will do just fine.
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@Victor-Meldrew Razor, obviously. His record speaks for itself.
Absolutely. So good he doesn't need to actually coach a Test team to be the world's best.
The Chuck Norris of Rugby coaches, I tell you.
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@Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level
@Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level
What like Foster creating all sorts of records to be proud of, and he has had 11 years of International experience.
Overated international experience.
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@Victor-Meldrew thought he was going on about someone with success at international level
What like Foster creating all sorts of records to be proud of, and he has had 11 years of International experience.
Overated international experience.
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Galthie had no International coaching experience until he coached France.He came straight out of Top14.
Then again, Guy Novès won multiple titles with Toulouse but was a failure with France. You just never know either way...
I agree but to keep banging on International experience as a must is short sighted in my opinion.
Certainly limits your selection process, as there is a lot of inadequate International coaches out there.
