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  • voodooV voodoo

    @Crucial this part is pretty funny "“I have little sympathy for someone running down the clock, but by the same token you would hope that the referee would have some feeling for the game.

    “This isn't the first time a team has been penalised for time-wasting, but it's the first time it has happened at such a crucial time in such an important game.”"

    The idea being that if the game is on the line (say, when you're leading by a few points with only 90 seconds left on the clock?), that you should be more lenient on a team who is illegally trying to waste time?

    Should we apply the same thinking and not call penalties in the last few minutes too?

    Wait, hang on

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    @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

    @Crucial this part is pretty funny "“I have little sympathy for someone running down the clock, but by the same token you would hope that the referee would have some feeling for the game.

    “This isn't the first time a team has been penalised for time-wasting, but it's the first time it has happened at such a crucial time in such an important game.”"

    The idea being that if the game is on the line (say, when you're leading by a few points with only 90 seconds left on the clock?), that you should be more lenient on a team who is illegally trying to waste time?

    Should we apply the same thinking and not call penalties in the last few minutes too?

    Wait, hang on

    Barnes managed that theory for at least 30 minutes in one game I can't remember.

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      https://twitter.com/BrumbiesRugby/status/1571987057328926721

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        #3446

        Australia 'A' squad for their Japan Tour.

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        https://wallabies.rugby/news/wallabies-headline-australia-a-squad-for-japan-tour-2022920


        Note that Darcy Swine has been named in that squad.

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          three of my boys have made the state squad, Rebels should have adopted the "Axemen", much cooler name

          edit: a few pretty unlucky i think considering we made the final

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            See the reserves:

            Jeriah Mua? As in BOP's former NZU20 and Hastings Boys' Jeriah Mua?

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

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              @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

              think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

              No such thing as bad publicity in a congested market

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                #3450

                Here is a good source of players to fill out the prospective 26 team Aussie National Championship squad rosters

                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/demise-two-great-clubs-crisis-rugby-cannot-waste/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  Here is a good source of players to fill out the prospective 26 team Aussie National Championship squad rosters

                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/demise-two-great-clubs-crisis-rugby-cannot-waste/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

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                  @Higgins Wasps moving was always going to end in tears.

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                  • mariner4lifeM Online
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                    The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                    They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                    Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                    But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                    All whole plunging down the rankings

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                      They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                      Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                      But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                      All whole plunging down the rankings

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                      @mariner4life but they have beaten t by e Boks and Pumas and nearly the AB's. I think he has done really well with the cattle he has and oh do many injuries.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                        They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                        Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                        But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                        All whole plunging down the rankings

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                        @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

                        When I ask them "ok then what?" the conversation dries up.

                        By all means let's put him under pressure for results. But let's have a genuine alternative or it's just a bluff.

                        Additionally: how the fuck do you beat the pumas with a BP then lose to them and give away a BP? Same with the boks.

                        How do you come back from 31-13 down against the ABs to nearly win, then put in that performance?

                        Which one do you put down to the coaching?

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                        • mariner4lifeM Online
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                          Look, you can rationalise this all you want

                          But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

                          Rennies wallabies are often quite shit and there is zero pressure

                          Aussie rugby fans have given up

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            Look, you can rationalise this all you want

                            But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

                            Rennies wallabies are often quite shit and there is zero pressure

                            Aussie rugby fans have given up

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                            @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                            But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

                            Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

                            We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

                            Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                              But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

                              Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

                              We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

                              Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

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                              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                              But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

                              Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

                              We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

                              Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

                              I think @mariner4life s point is that the “sack the coach” mantra has fizzled out.
                              Maybe the realisation is that no matter how good a coach RA employs is, the underlying game isn’t there and relying on a handful of very good players isn’t going to get consistency.
                              Fans may well have given up to an extent.
                              Frustrating thing for Rennie must be that he can’t get consistent performances from the team as they are mentally hot and cold. Last night they showed some fortitude when down numbers but then switched off a notch when back to full compliment.
                              I like that he’s been benching Nic White if that’s to send a message to concentrate on the game rather than your mouth or being a smartarse. White doesn’t get the message though.
                              If any game was ever setup for the Wallabies to come out and prove a point it was last night and instead they pissed it away almost immediately by sapping their own energy fighting to stay in it after dumb play.

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                                The Springboks talk about their own horrible inconsistency too. Just think it is part of the current international scene with the laws and officials being a leveller.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                                  They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                                  Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                                  But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                                  All whole plunging down the rankings

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                                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                                  They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                                  Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                                  But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                                  All whole plunging down the rankings

                                  Dave's win rate is at 40%.

                                  Remember when we pilloried Robbie (who ended up almost 50 percent better at 58%.

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

                                    When I ask them "ok then what?" the conversation dries up.

                                    By all means let's put him under pressure for results. But let's have a genuine alternative or it's just a bluff.

                                    Additionally: how the fuck do you beat the pumas with a BP then lose to them and give away a BP? Same with the boks.

                                    How do you come back from 31-13 down against the ABs to nearly win, then put in that performance?

                                    Which one do you put down to the coaching?

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                                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

                                    When I ask them "ok then what?"...

                                    ... Australia offers a huge wad of cash to Ian Foster to take over.

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                                      Here you go.

                                      Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                                      https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Here you go.

                                        Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                                        https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        Here you go.

                                        Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                                        https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

                                        If he had any credibility at any stage he doesn't any more:

                                        The Wallabies are always looking for NRL players to switch codes, but why not league’s best coaches?

                                        It’s a little-known secret that Wayne Bennett was once asked if he would consider coaching the Wallabies and he gave it some serious consideration before deciding to stick with league.

                                        But what about Ricky Stuart, who played for the Wallabies? He’d been a sensation. Or Craig Bellamy? Or Trent Robinson? Rugby Australia should not be putting any limits on finding the right person.

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                                          I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

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