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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
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    #3452

    The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

    They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

    Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

    But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
    All whole plunging down the rankings

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

      They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

      Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

      But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
      All whole plunging down the rankings

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      ARHS
      wrote on last edited by
      #3453

      @mariner4life but they have beaten t by e Boks and Pumas and nearly the AB's. I think he has done really well with the cattle he has and oh do many injuries.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

        They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

        Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

        But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
        All whole plunging down the rankings

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        wrote on last edited by
        #3454

        @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

        When I ask them "ok then what?" the conversation dries up.

        By all means let's put him under pressure for results. But let's have a genuine alternative or it's just a bluff.

        Additionally: how the fuck do you beat the pumas with a BP then lose to them and give away a BP? Same with the boks.

        How do you come back from 31-13 down against the ABs to nearly win, then put in that performance?

        Which one do you put down to the coaching?

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        • mariner4lifeM Offline
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          mariner4life
          wrote on last edited by
          #3455

          Look, you can rationalise this all you want

          But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

          Rennies wallabies are often quite shit and there is zero pressure

          Aussie rugby fans have given up

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            Look, you can rationalise this all you want

            But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

            Rennies wallabies are often quite shit and there is zero pressure

            Aussie rugby fans have given up

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            NTA
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            #3456

            @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

            But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

            Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

            We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

            Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

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            • NTAN NTA

              @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

              But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

              Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

              We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

              Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

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              Crucial
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              #3457

              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

              @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

              But losing wallabies coaches get knifed like Labor prime ministers after a bad run of polls

              Maybe we have given up, but again: what is the alternative to the current setup?

              We are basing our expectations on a team that was successful 20 years ago, with supporting systems that are currently worse.

              Every fluffybunny thinks the answer is a change in coach or maybe their favourite player instead of "that guy from NSW", because they don't understand how bad the production line is.

              I think @mariner4life s point is that the “sack the coach” mantra has fizzled out.
              Maybe the realisation is that no matter how good a coach RA employs is, the underlying game isn’t there and relying on a handful of very good players isn’t going to get consistency.
              Fans may well have given up to an extent.
              Frustrating thing for Rennie must be that he can’t get consistent performances from the team as they are mentally hot and cold. Last night they showed some fortitude when down numbers but then switched off a notch when back to full compliment.
              I like that he’s been benching Nic White if that’s to send a message to concentrate on the game rather than your mouth or being a smartarse. White doesn’t get the message though.
              If any game was ever setup for the Wallabies to come out and prove a point it was last night and instead they pissed it away almost immediately by sapping their own energy fighting to stay in it after dumb play.

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                ARHS
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                #3458

                The Springboks talk about their own horrible inconsistency too. Just think it is part of the current international scene with the laws and officials being a leveller.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                  They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                  Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                  But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                  All whole plunging down the rankings

                  Chris B.C Online
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                  Chris B.
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #3459

                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                  The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                  They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                  Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                  But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                  All whole plunging down the rankings

                  Dave's win rate is at 40%.

                  Remember when we pilloried Robbie (who ended up almost 50 percent better at 58%.

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

                    When I ask them "ok then what?" the conversation dries up.

                    By all means let's put him under pressure for results. But let's have a genuine alternative or it's just a bluff.

                    Additionally: how the fuck do you beat the pumas with a BP then lose to them and give away a BP? Same with the boks.

                    How do you come back from 31-13 down against the ABs to nearly win, then put in that performance?

                    Which one do you put down to the coaching?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3460

                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                    @mariner4life have seen a bit of chat around from the fan base about how he should prepare to resign.

                    When I ask them "ok then what?"...

                    ... Australia offers a huge wad of cash to Ian Foster to take over.

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                    • KiwiMurphK Online
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                      #3461

                      Here you go.

                      Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                      https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Here you go.

                        Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                        https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

                        boobooB Online
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                        booboo
                        wrote on last edited by booboo
                        #3462

                        @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:

                        Here you go.

                        Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                        https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

                        If he had any credibility at any stage he doesn't any more:

                        The Wallabies are always looking for NRL players to switch codes, but why not league’s best coaches?

                        It’s a little-known secret that Wayne Bennett was once asked if he would consider coaching the Wallabies and he gave it some serious consideration before deciding to stick with league.

                        But what about Ricky Stuart, who played for the Wallabies? He’d been a sensation. Or Craig Bellamy? Or Trent Robinson? Rugby Australia should not be putting any limits on finding the right person.

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                        • antipodeanA Offline
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                          #3463

                          I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

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                            I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                            mariner4lifeM Offline
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                            mariner4life
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3464

                            @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                            I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                            i would pay enormous amounts of money to watch a Ricky Stuart press conference after a losing Wallaby test with even one contentious refereeing decision in it

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                              I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                              i would pay enormous amounts of money to watch a Ricky Stuart press conference after a losing Wallaby test with even one contentious refereeing decision in it

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                              Nepia
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #3465

                              @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                              I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                              i would pay enormous amounts of money to watch a Ricky Stuart press conference after a losing Wallaby test with even one contentious refereeing decision in it

                              He's a former Wallaby so does not meet @antipodean's criteria. 😉

                              But agree wholeheartedly. Chieka and Rennie are amateurs in comparison.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Here you go.

                                Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph (paywall).

                                https://twitter.com/telegraph_sport/status/1574233278747332609

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                                NTA
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #3466

                                @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby:

                                Fair and balanced Daily Telegraph

                                A chip on both shoulders.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                                  i would pay enormous amounts of money to watch a Ricky Stuart press conference after a losing Wallaby test with even one contentious refereeing decision in it

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                                  bayimports
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3467

                                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  I genuinely think I'd wet myself from laughter if the ARU got a league coach with no experience in rugby.

                                  i would pay enormous amounts of money to watch a Ricky Stuart press conference after a losing Wallaby test with even one contentious refereeing decision in it

                                  although he wouldnt have his same league journos to cover his arse...it would be funny though

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                                    They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                                    Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                                    But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                                    All whole plunging down the rankings

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                                    nostrildamus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #3468

                                    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    The fact the Dave Rennie is not under pressure does my head in

                                    They were flogged tonight. As they have been a lot.

                                    Yes he's developing youth. And last week was actually really good.

                                    But no wallaby coach in my life time, especially a kiwi, has been able to get away with a half decent performance every couple of games
                                    All whole plunging down the rankings

                                    Are you David Campese?
                                    "Wallabies coach Dave Rennie should be under more pressure, writes David Campese"
                                    https://wwos.nine.com.au/rugby/championship-2022-news-wallabies-legend-david-campese-questions-coach-dave-rennie/a53099c6-5abb-40ed-a6a6-41da30f18ff0
                                    Aug 26th, 2022

                                    Argentina should not have been in a position where they could beat our national team by 30 points. We have slipped to seventh in the world rankings and surely Rennie should be coming under some pressure.
                                    
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                                      Frye
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #3469

                                      As just one example I've never seen NSW rugby in the doldrums like it was a couple of years ago. Just awful.

                                      Whether it's player development, problem with the comps below Super level, the player and coaching exodus or what — something's not right with Australian rugby at it's core. Rennie can't be blamed for that.

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300699340/michael-hooper-to-return-to-wallabies-training-ahead-of-northern-tour

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300699340/michael-hooper-to-return-to-wallabies-training-ahead-of-northern-tour

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                                          #3471

                                          @Tim said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300699340/michael-hooper-to-return-to-wallabies-training-ahead-of-northern-tour

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