The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Nepia said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Have we had Nirvana is overrated in the thread yet?
Who's rating them overly?
History.
Same as Janice Joplin.
History is wrong on both counts.
I'm rating them overly on both counts.
But I'm ok with others having different opinions to me.
I don’t mind Nirvana to be honest but don’t see them as this seminal band. Joplin? Shouty, pre new-age hippy. You just know she’ll have very hairy armpits and BO. Less importantly I can’t think of anything she did apart from Piece Of My Heart that I’d care to listen to again.
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Nirvana aren’t bad but they’re still a very clear 5th in terms of bands of that era with dead lead singers behind Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Jeff Buckley. All of them had better songs and were better singers.
Not to say Nirvana are terrible, far from it, learning their stuff on the guitar definitely helped with the ladies in the mid 90s…….but definitely overrated overall.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
But I'm ok with others having different opinions to me.
Wrong thread.
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@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Nepia said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Have we had Nirvana is overrated in the thread yet?
Who's rating them overly?
History.
Same as Janice Joplin.
History is wrong on both counts.
I'm rating them overly on both counts.
But I'm ok with others having different opinions to me.
I don’t mind Nirvana to be honest but don’t see them as this seminal band. Joplin? Shouty, pre new-age hippy. You just know she’ll have very hairy armpits and BO. Less importantly I can’t think of anything she did apart from Piece Of My Heart that I’d care to listen to again.
I think with Nirvana it depends if they appealed to you or not. Nevermind came out in 1991 which was about probably my peak listening years. It was different, it caught me, it was a massive massive game changer for music for me. It was like somebody "got me". If that makes sense. I think in Britain a similar sort of thing happened with a lot of the youth population with Oasis.
Joplin I think has one of the best voices I've heard. It's got some serious grunt behind it and I'd go and listen to it live in a heartbeat if I could. I don't know how big she was before she joined the 27 club, but when I think of that era (hippies etc) the first name I think of is Joplin.
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@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
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@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
Prophets of Rage have some catchy tunes.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
He was born in the dark indeed.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
Indeed, Hardy was fantastic.
He was born in the dark indeed.
None of the above makes any sense.
Yeah I didn’t really word it well, even with an edit it is still a mess.
But Ledger only won an Oscar cos it’s cool to praise the performance of someone who died recently.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Nirvana aren’t bad but they’re still a very clear 5th in terms of bands of that era with dead lead singers behind Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Jeff Buckley. All of them had better songs and were better singers.
Not to say Nirvana are terrible, far from it, learning their stuff on the guitar definitely helped with the ladies in the mid 90s…….but definitely overrated overall.
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Totally cool not to really be in to nirvana. I wouldn't count them among my favourite bands.
But to deny their importance to the 90s is fucking ridiculous. Their explosion with nevermind changed rock music. All those other 90s bands that were thrn mentioned only got big because of nirvana. Culturally important to my generation
And Heart Shaped Box is a rolled gold banger.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
Heath Ledger wore a nurses uniform.
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@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I only listen to 1 regularly, and have it in my top 10 favourite albums of all time.
Bullet in the Head is in my top 10 songs of all time.Incredible band
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
So the wardrobe department and cinematographer should receive awards..?
