The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
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@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
Prophets of Rage have some catchy tunes.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
He was born in the dark indeed.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
Indeed, Hardy was fantastic.
He was born in the dark indeed.
None of the above makes any sense.
Yeah I didn’t really word it well, even with an edit it is still a mess.
But Ledger only won an Oscar cos it’s cool to praise the performance of someone who died recently.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Nirvana aren’t bad but they’re still a very clear 5th in terms of bands of that era with dead lead singers behind Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden and Jeff Buckley. All of them had better songs and were better singers.
Not to say Nirvana are terrible, far from it, learning their stuff on the guitar definitely helped with the ladies in the mid 90s…….but definitely overrated overall.
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Totally cool not to really be in to nirvana. I wouldn't count them among my favourite bands.
But to deny their importance to the 90s is fucking ridiculous. Their explosion with nevermind changed rock music. All those other 90s bands that were thrn mentioned only got big because of nirvana. Culturally important to my generation
And Heart Shaped Box is a rolled gold banger.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
Heath Ledger wore a nurses uniform.
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@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I only listen to 1 regularly, and have it in my top 10 favourite albums of all time.
Bullet in the Head is in my top 10 songs of all time.Incredible band
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
So the wardrobe department and cinematographer should receive awards..?
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I'd add Dirt.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
So the wardrobe department and cinematographer should receive awards..?
After Tom has his Oscar, yes no probs.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I'd add Dirt.
Cool.
I wouldn't. And I'll give my reasons (again, totally just opinion)
Dirt is awesome. But it didn't create a movement. The Alice in Chains kids at school were probably always going to be the Alice in Chains kids. And thr popular kids didn't care
Nevermind created grunge. Nevermind allowed a boring band like Pearl Jam to be enormous.
Rage bought politics to white kids music. And rap over rock music. And Killing in the Name
Korn gave us Nu Metal.
Dirt is a better album than both Nevermind and Korn though. Way better. Down in a Hole is the best song about drug addiction ever.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
So the wardrobe department and cinematographer should receive awards..?
After Tom has his Oscar, yes no probs.
Well he missed the boat when he wasn't nominated for his portrayal of the Kray twins. Massively better performance than Bane.
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I'd add Dirt.
Cool.
I wouldn't. And I'll give my reasons (again, totally just opinion)
Dirt is awesome. But it didn't create a movement. The Alice in Chains kids at school were probably always going to be the Alice in Chains kids. And thr popular kids didn't care
Nevermind created grunge. Nevermind allowed a boring band like Pearl Jam to be enormous.
Rage bought politics to white kids music. And rap over rock music. And Killing in the Name
Korn gave us Nu Metal.
Dirt is a better album than both Nevermind and Korn though. Way better. Down in a Hole is the best song about drug addiction ever.
Can't disagree with your criteria and reasoning.
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Ledger was great in The Dark Knight, regardless of the fact he died or not - he made that movie.
Tom Hardy is a great actor, but Bane is not the go to role when I think of him acting, and the movie he was in was bad by normal director standards and fucking awful by Nolan's standards. Hardy should have won the Oscar for Locke. Carried a whole movie just driving and talking into the phone.
Another hot take - Nolan's worst films are his Batman ones.
Also, I think I've said this before Alice in Chains made no impression on me during that era - not sure why, maybe they didn't make it to Hawkes Bay record players. I just wasn't taken in by Nirvana, preferred the boring band Pearl Jam. Never listened to a Korn album either, the whole nu-metal thing passed me by. Rage was huge though, must have been in 7th form, and then managed to see them at Big Day Out in 1996 I think.
