The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@Nepia said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Ledger was great in The Dark Knight, regardless of the fact he died or not - he made that movie.
Tom Hardy is a great actor, but Bane is not the go to roll when I think of him acting, and the movie he was in was bad by normal director standards and fucking awful by Nolan's standards. Hardy should have won the Oscar for Locke. Carried a whole movie just driving and talking into the phone.
Another hot take - Nolan's worst films are his Batman ones.
Also, I think I've said this before Alice in Chains made no impression on me during that era - not sure why, maybe they didn't make it to Hawkes Bay record players. I just wasn't taken in by Nirvana, preferred the boring band Pearl Jam. Never listened to a Korn album either, the whole nu-metal thing passed me by. Rage was huge though, must have been in 7th form, and then managed to see them at Big Day Out in 1996 I think.
Sounds like someone hasn’t seen Tenet.
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@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Heath Ledger is a massively overrated actor.
Classic case of someone dying young and being lauded far beyond his actual talent and achievements.
I agree he's massively overrated, but his performance in Batman #206 was pretty damn good and different to all his other roles.
That last point being a key element of what I define as a good actor; different but believable characters. The opposite of which is Owen Wilson; his acting consists of repeating lines.
I’d rate him way behind Tom Hardy as Bane.
What did he do except that weird tongue thing ?
Convinced me that his character was 100% real. It was a truly outstanding performance worthy of the Oscar it won.
You know it, Hardy was fantastic.
Just confirming that we're talking about the actor wearing a mask and voice synthesizer the entire time?
Yes and the talent still shone through.
He’s also about five foot fuck all but looked enormous.
So the wardrobe department and cinematographer should receive awards..?
After Tom has his Oscar, yes no probs.
Well he missed the boat when he wasn't nominated for his portrayal of the Kray twins. Massively better performance than Bane.
Good call. He was terrific in that.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Nepia said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Ledger was great in The Dark Knight, regardless of the fact he died or not - he made that movie.
Tom Hardy is a great actor, but Bane is not the go to roll when I think of him acting, and the movie he was in was bad by normal director standards and fucking awful by Nolan's standards. Hardy should have won the Oscar for Locke. Carried a whole movie just driving and talking into the phone.
Another hot take - Nolan's worst films are his Batman ones.
Also, I think I've said this before Alice in Chains made no impression on me during that era - not sure why, maybe they didn't make it to Hawkes Bay record players. I just wasn't taken in by Nirvana, preferred the boring band Pearl Jam. Never listened to a Korn album either, the whole nu-metal thing passed me by. Rage was huge though, must have been in 7th form, and then managed to see them at Big Day Out in 1996 I think.
Sounds like someone hasn’t seen Tenet.
Tenet is batshit, but I quite enjoyed it. Not sure it will survive a rewatch with it's reputation, Dunkirk didn't.
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Yeah... not particularly hot-takes...
- For whatever reason, Nirvana never grabbed me at the time, but Pearl Jam did.
- In hindsight, I can see why Pearl Jam is considered "boring" - but when Ten and Vs were released... that was it. That was my jam.
- Rage Against The Machine.... whole different level. Fucking amazing. Never "my jam", but if any fluffybunny doesn't have their debut album anywhere near their top 10 rock albums of all time... fuck ya's all.
- Alice in Chains - never listened to them until a decade or two later. And that's probably my bad. 'pologies. From what I have listened to, since... yeah... can appreciate it - but... coming to it after that 'era'... it just doesn't have the same... (impact?)
- Korn, Nu-Metal... always seemed like candied-popcorn. I might enjoy it some of the time, but felt dirty/guilty whenever I did.
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@antipodean said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@chimoaus said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Yeah Nirvana are good but I haven't heard anyone say they're fucking super since... well the 90s.
A band that was super in the 90s was Rage Against The Machine, fuck me did I have some fun to that bombtrack.
I consider the game changing albums of the 90s to be
Nevermind
Rage Against the Machine, and
Korn(Caveat, rock music only)
I'd add Dirt.
Cool.
I wouldn't. And I'll give my reasons (again, totally just opinion)
Dirt is awesome. But it didn't create a movement. The Alice in Chains kids at school were probably always going to be the Alice in Chains kids. And thr popular kids didn't care
Nevermind created grunge. Nevermind allowed a boring band like Pearl Jam to be enormous.
Rage bought politics to white kids music. And rap over rock music. And Killing in the Name
Korn gave us Nu Metal.
Dirt is a better album than both Nevermind and Korn though. Way better. Down in a Hole is the best song about drug addiction ever.
I am probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, Alice in Chains fans on TSF and I'd agree with the above.
Funny thing is that for me the most game changing albums of the era weren't actually albums. It would have to be the The Trip or Singles soundtrack.
Two of my all time favourite songs came off that Singles soundtrack (Drown & Would)
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@Tordah said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Ana de Amas does nothing for me.
I had to look her up - I think she is extremely pretty but lacks sexiness
Give yourselves an uppercut
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Ana de Amas does nothing for me.
She’s no Liz Hurley
I'm not on the Liz Hurley is a goddess train!
Dont get me wrong, she was sexy as hell in some movies, looks good for her age.
I'm not a muso like many here, I like all sorts of random stuff, even some NIckelback, Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock, but also agree with the above re some Pearl Jam being boring, chuck em with REM for how they make you feel, but I also like some of thier stuff.
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@Bovidae said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I aren't, and never was a grunge fan, so had no interest in Nirvana in the 1990s. AIC and Soundgarden were more popular amongst my rock/metal friends as neither are grunge.
Yeah but they had that “Seattle” sound…..as did Stone Temple Pilots even though they were from San Diego.
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@Tordah said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Ana de Amas does nothing for me.
I had to look her up - I think she is extremely pretty but lacks sexiness
@Bones @Tordah
You're weird.
(I assume there's a gif/meme/whatever for that, but... fuck that shit)Watch Knock Knock - and then tell me she "lacks sexiness".
For fuck's sake.Now - Angelina Jolie - does absolutely nothing for me. It gives me the shits whenever she's used as the "epitome of an attractive woman".
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@Bovidae said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
AIC and Soundgarden were more popular amongst my rock/metal friends as neither are grunge.
Soundgarden no, they are a metal band that softened
but AIC to my mind are the quintessential grunge act
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@Kruse said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
It gives me the shits whenever she's used as the "epitome of an attractive woman
was suuuuuper hot before she became the sack of bones she is now
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1 Every Fern thread will eventually turn into a discussion about the relative merits of a dozen or so 90s rock bands.
2 The most influential album of the 1990s wasn’t by any of the bands you’ve all been talking about, it was Jagged Little Pill.
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@JC said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Jagged Little Pill
just enormous, and even the metal guys i knew had a copy
one of those albums that everyone owned, like Moby "Play"
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@JC said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Jagged Little Pill
just enormous, and even the metal guys i knew had a copy
one of those albums that everyone owned, like Moby "Play"
I went to her concert on the North Shore somewhere. I can remember stopping for food on the drive up, the two girls I went with, but nothing else about the night. I assume I enjpyed it.
