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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    One of the TH props who has played this year won't be in the AB squad named on Sunday, so will be included in the AB XV squad. This will give us an indication of how the new selectors rate them. I also think that player could be Ta'avao.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    One of the TH props who has played this year won't be in the AB squad named on Sunday, so will be included in the AB XV squad. This will give us an indication of how the new selectors rate them. I also think that player could be Ta'avao.

    Yep he's most likely. Unfortunate because out of all our TH's he probably gives the most impact off the bench. Lomax is the current starter, Newell is the future, Tu'ungufasi has had so much invested over the years. Unfortunately Ta'avao is the odd one out.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130075410/the-japan-syndrome-and-how-its-hitting-damian-mckenzies-all-blacks-chances

      An article about McKenzie. Basically Marshall saying his form is not as good as when he left. He ask whether he should be in the AB squad or the AB XV squad

      An "I watched The Breakdown and took notes" article. Stuff copying Rugbypass

      At this moment in time I think Perofeta is clearly the better player. However Foster has been very loyal to older players

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      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130075410/the-japan-syndrome-and-how-its-hitting-damian-mckenzies-all-blacks-chances

      An article about McKenzie. Basically Marshall saying his form is not as good as when he left. He ask whether he should be in the AB squad or the AB XV squad

      An "I watched The Breakdown and took notes" article. Stuff copying Rugbypass

      At this moment in time I think Perofeta is clearly the better player. However Foster has been very loyal to older players

      McKenzie to tour with AB XV. It would be terrible management to drop Perofeta to AB XV given he's done nothing wrong.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        One of the TH props who has played this year won't be in the AB squad named on Sunday, so will be included in the AB XV squad. This will give us an indication of how the new selectors rate them. I also think that player could be Ta'avao.

        Yep he's most likely. Unfortunate because out of all our TH's he probably gives the most impact off the bench. Lomax is the current starter, Newell is the future, Tu'ungufasi has had so much invested over the years. Unfortunately Ta'avao is the odd one out.

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        @TheMojoman The mix of the props taken on tour will depend on whether Ofa is chosen as a LH (like in Bled 2) or a TH. That will also affect Ross.

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        • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130075410/the-japan-syndrome-and-how-its-hitting-damian-mckenzies-all-blacks-chances

          An article about McKenzie. Basically Marshall saying his form is not as good as when he left. He ask whether he should be in the AB squad or the AB XV squad

          An "I watched The Breakdown and took notes" article. Stuff copying Rugbypass

          At this moment in time I think Perofeta is clearly the better player. However Foster has been very loyal to older players

          McKenzie to tour with AB XV. It would be terrible management to drop Perofeta to AB XV given he's done nothing wrong.

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          @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130075410/the-japan-syndrome-and-how-its-hitting-damian-mckenzies-all-blacks-chances

          An article about McKenzie. Basically Marshall saying his form is not as good as when he left. He ask whether he should be in the AB squad or the AB XV squad

          An "I watched The Breakdown and took notes" article. Stuff copying Rugbypass

          At this moment in time I think Perofeta is clearly the better player. However Foster has been very loyal to older players

          McKenzie to tour with AB XV. It would be terrible management to drop Perofeta to AB XV given he's done nothing wrong.

          But he’s done nothing at all and won’t get much chance either.
          Give him a chance to run the game in the knowledge that he gets called back if required.

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            The presence of Owen Franks has been of great benefit to Tyrell Lomax, probably a turning point in his career. Lomax is still young for a prop and could improve in terms of tackling and discipline, which are his main weakness. He will be a world class THP IMO.

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            • C cgrant

              The presence of Owen Franks has been of great benefit to Tyrell Lomax, probably a turning point in his career. Lomax is still young for a prop and could improve in terms of tackling and discipline, which are his main weakness. He will be a world class THP IMO.

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              @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

              The presence of Owen Franks has been of great benefit to Tyrell Lomax, probably a turning point in his career. Lomax is still young for a prop and could improve in terms of tackling and discipline, which are his main weakness. He will be a world class THP IMO.

              He's just back on the trajectory he dipped from after leaving the highlanders.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                The presence of Owen Franks has been of great benefit to Tyrell Lomax, probably a turning point in his career. Lomax is still young for a prop and could improve in terms of tackling and discipline, which are his main weakness. He will be a world class THP IMO.

                He's just back on the trajectory he dipped from after leaving the highlanders.

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                @Bones
                He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

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                  @Bones
                  He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

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                  @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bones
                  He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

                  A barely believable tale.

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                    Not sure where to put this.

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                      @Bones
                      He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones
                      He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

                      Biggest surprise of the season for me.
                      Came from getting dominated in Super to looking world class and an automatic selection.
                      Not sure what changed, coaching or attitude, but someone especially Lomax deserves some major credit.

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                      • D Darren

                        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bones
                        He wasn't as good when he was playing for the Highlanders. Promising but nowhere near his current form.

                        Biggest surprise of the season for me.
                        Came from getting dominated in Super to looking world class and an automatic selection.
                        Not sure what changed, coaching or attitude, but someone especially Lomax deserves some major credit.

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                        @Darren seemed to coincide with Ryan didn't it?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          Not sure where to put this.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Not sure where to put this.

                          Not ideal putting it here to be honest. I’ve already reported it to the mods.

                          You should make an All Blacks 1993 thread.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Darren seemed to coincide with Ryan didn't it?

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                            @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

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                              @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

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                              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

                              He only appeared to show the improvement at AB level though imo.

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                                Having BBBR pushing behind you in the scrum helps.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Not sure where to put this.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Not sure where to put this.

                                  One of my favourite players of all time. Unfortunately one of my least favourite pundits.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Having BBBR pushing behind you in the scrum helps.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Having BBBR pushing behind you in the scrum helps.

                                    Pretty big gap in horsepower in the second row between the Canes and AB's locks. Add in some coaching and hey presto.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Not sure where to put this.

                                      One of my favourite players of all time. Unfortunately one of my least favourite pundits.

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                                      Crucial
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                                      @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Not sure where to put this.

                                      One of my favourite players of all time. Unfortunately one of my least favourite pundits.

                                      He’s alright. He has boundaries around his job and does a pretty good job considering. I enjoy his live work

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

                                        He only appeared to show the improvement at AB level though imo.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

                                        He only appeared to show the improvement at AB level though imo.

                                        Improvement isn't always instantaneous, sometimes the tips and tricks you glean off the older pros take a while to sink in.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

                                          He only appeared to show the improvement at AB level though imo.

                                          Improvement isn't always instantaneous, sometimes the tips and tricks you glean off the older pros take a while to sink in.

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                                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones you'd hope Franks would have been mentoring in the background while he was at the Canes.

                                          He only appeared to show the improvement at AB level though imo.

                                          Improvement isn't always instantaneous, sometimes the tips and tricks you glean off the older pros take a while to sink in.

                                          Ah hah, so it was what he learned at the highlanders, got it

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