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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    This points to the possibility of using dirt trackers from the ABs squad though.

    A possibility for the AB XV game against Ireland A, as the ABs play Wales the following day. It appears that the AB test against Scotland and the NZ XV-Barbarians game is to be played at the same time.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

    This points to the possibility of using dirt trackers from the ABs squad though.

    A possibility for the AB XV game against Ireland A, as the ABs play Wales the following day. It appears that the AB test against Scotland and the NZ XV-Barbarians game is to be played at the same time.

    I still dont see that as a problem. Lets say that the AB squad is 32/33. They will nail down 23 for the match and hold a couple if there are niggles but there will be players that can leave one camp and go to the other. If you look at the RC squad there were a whole bunch that were helping at training only.
    Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if both squads are together as much as possible for opposed training and only moving to venue city two days before.

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      Kirwin also shared a little “whisper” he’d heard regarding selection:

      “(I) don’t know a lot about this young man but Levi Aumua, I’ve heard that he got the envelope under the door; ‘don’t name yourself available for Samoa or Fiji because we’ve got some sights on you’.”

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/you-cant-take-too-many-risks-pundits-project-areas-of-concern-for-all-blacks-xv/

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        Kirwin also shared a little “whisper” he’d heard regarding selection:

        “(I) don’t know a lot about this young man but Levi Aumua, I’ve heard that he got the envelope under the door; ‘don’t name yourself available for Samoa or Fiji because we’ve got some sights on you’.”

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/you-cant-take-too-many-risks-pundits-project-areas-of-concern-for-all-blacks-xv/

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        @Tim one of very few from Moana Pasifika who was eligible but not selected for pacific teams this year. I did wonder why. Was unimpressed in his earlier stint in super rugby but he has improved.

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          Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

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            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

            Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

            I read that this squad would be announced a day or so after the AB squad, similar to the Māori squad naming earlier in the year. The focus will be on the AB squad on Oct 9, so it makes sense to do this on separate days.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

              Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

              I read that this squad would be announced a day or so after the AB squad, similar to the Māori squad naming earlier in the year. The focus will be on the AB squad on Oct 9, so it makes sense to do this on separate days.

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              @Bovidae maybe Parsons had the AB squad date in his head.

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              • TimT Tim

                Kirwin also shared a little “whisper” he’d heard regarding selection:

                “(I) don’t know a lot about this young man but Levi Aumua, I’ve heard that he got the envelope under the door; ‘don’t name yourself available for Samoa or Fiji because we’ve got some sights on you’.”

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/you-cant-take-too-many-risks-pundits-project-areas-of-concern-for-all-blacks-xv/

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                @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                  @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

                  Have you met his brother Dulith?

                  😎

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                    So, 36 for the AB squad and 26 for the ABs XV with some crossover seems the intel. But,...
                    I struggle to see the need for 36 ABs, so I'm going for 34 and 28 - you can promote a couple as you see fit.

                    Otherwise - I reckon the ABs will be pretty predictable.

                    de Groot, Bower, Tu'ungafasi
                    Sami T., Taylor, Coles
                    Lomax, Laulala, Newell
                    Retallick, Whitelock, SBarrett, Vaaí
                    Frizell, AIoane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu
                    Smith, Christie, Fakatava
                    Mo'unga, BBarrett,
                    Havili, RTS, ALB, RIoane
                    Clarke, Fainga'anuku, Jordan, Reece, JBarrett, Perofeta

                    So, an additional 28 man squad, that might have to be a bit front row heavy, given there's a few outside backs sure to be available from the ABs. Injuries might preclude a couple.

                    Ross, Williams, Hodgman
                    Aumua, McAlister, Thompson
                    Taávao, Jager, Franks (maybe/maybe not for Owen)
                    Dickson, Tuipolotou, Strange,
                    Sowakula, Harmon, Jacobson, Mikaele-Tu'u
                    Weber, Perenara, Roigard
                    McKenzie, Gatland
                    Nankivell, Ennor, Aumua
                    Telea, Lam, Love, ZSullivan

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      So, 36 for the AB squad and 26 for the ABs XV with some crossover seems the intel. But,...
                      I struggle to see the need for 36 ABs, so I'm going for 34 and 28 - you can promote a couple as you see fit.

                      Otherwise - I reckon the ABs will be pretty predictable.

                      de Groot, Bower, Tu'ungafasi
                      Sami T., Taylor, Coles
                      Lomax, Laulala, Newell
                      Retallick, Whitelock, SBarrett, Vaaí
                      Frizell, AIoane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu
                      Smith, Christie, Fakatava
                      Mo'unga, BBarrett,
                      Havili, RTS, ALB, RIoane
                      Clarke, Fainga'anuku, Jordan, Reece, JBarrett, Perofeta

                      So, an additional 28 man squad, that might have to be a bit front row heavy, given there's a few outside backs sure to be available from the ABs. Injuries might preclude a couple.

                      Ross, Williams, Hodgman
                      Aumua, McAlister, Thompson
                      Taávao, Jager, Franks (maybe/maybe not for Owen)
                      Dickson, Tuipolotou, Strange,
                      Sowakula, Harmon, Jacobson, Mikaele-Tu'u
                      Weber, Perenara, Roigard
                      McKenzie, Gatland
                      Nankivell, Ennor, Aumua
                      Telea, Lam, Love, ZSullivan

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                      @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                        @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                        Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

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                          @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                          Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                          Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

                          Yeah my thoughts on halfback too. I haven't seen a great amount of npc but what I've seen of Perenara and Love they're not exactly setting the world on fire.

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                            @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                            Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

                            Yeah my thoughts on halfback too. I haven't seen a great amount of npc but what I've seen of Perenara and Love they're not exactly setting the world on fire.

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                            @Bones TJ was very good today, but he should be at NPC.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                              @Bones TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks. I don't think we're going to be picking our 6th halfback or tighthead over TJ or Owen for RWC so keep them involved.

                              I like Love, man 🙂 - he's a little bit extraneous (and my 28th pick), because a specialist wing might be more useful, but WTF!

                              Could be miles out - hard to know who the selectors have in their sights - but, it's a very important selection to see who they think is the next tier.

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                                @Bones TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks. I don't think we're going to be picking our 6th halfback or tighthead over TJ or Owen for RWC so keep them involved.

                                I like Love, man 🙂 - he's a little bit extraneous (and my 28th pick), because a specialist wing might be more useful, but WTF!

                                Could be miles out - hard to know who the selectors have in their sights - but, it's a very important selection to see who they think is the next tier.

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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                                TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks

                                That's why Weber is there... but he actually looks like he could step up 😉

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                                  Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                                    Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                                    @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

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                                      Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                                      @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                                      Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

                                      I'd be his biggest critic over the years, but barring outside circumstances he definitely should be.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                        Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                          Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

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                                          @gt12 Stevenson is contracted until 2023. He deserves to be selected.

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