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All Blacks XV 2022

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    Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

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    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

      Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

      Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

      I read that this squad would be announced a day or so after the AB squad, similar to the Māori squad naming earlier in the year. The focus will be on the AB squad on Oct 9, so it makes sense to do this on separate days.

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        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:

        Team announced on October 9th according to James Parsons.

        I read that this squad would be announced a day or so after the AB squad, similar to the Māori squad naming earlier in the year. The focus will be on the AB squad on Oct 9, so it makes sense to do this on separate days.

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        @Bovidae maybe Parsons had the AB squad date in his head.

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        • TimT Tim

          Kirwin also shared a little “whisper” he’d heard regarding selection:

          “(I) don’t know a lot about this young man but Levi Aumua, I’ve heard that he got the envelope under the door; ‘don’t name yourself available for Samoa or Fiji because we’ve got some sights on you’.”

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/you-cant-take-too-many-risks-pundits-project-areas-of-concern-for-all-blacks-xv/

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          @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

            @Tim Good to see that the quality of RugbyPass articles hasn't improved. Who is this Kirwin fella?

            Have you met his brother Dulith?

            😎

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            • Chris B.C Offline
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              So, 36 for the AB squad and 26 for the ABs XV with some crossover seems the intel. But,...
              I struggle to see the need for 36 ABs, so I'm going for 34 and 28 - you can promote a couple as you see fit.

              Otherwise - I reckon the ABs will be pretty predictable.

              de Groot, Bower, Tu'ungafasi
              Sami T., Taylor, Coles
              Lomax, Laulala, Newell
              Retallick, Whitelock, SBarrett, Vaaí
              Frizell, AIoane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu
              Smith, Christie, Fakatava
              Mo'unga, BBarrett,
              Havili, RTS, ALB, RIoane
              Clarke, Fainga'anuku, Jordan, Reece, JBarrett, Perofeta

              So, an additional 28 man squad, that might have to be a bit front row heavy, given there's a few outside backs sure to be available from the ABs. Injuries might preclude a couple.

              Ross, Williams, Hodgman
              Aumua, McAlister, Thompson
              Taávao, Jager, Franks (maybe/maybe not for Owen)
              Dickson, Tuipolotou, Strange,
              Sowakula, Harmon, Jacobson, Mikaele-Tu'u
              Weber, Perenara, Roigard
              McKenzie, Gatland
              Nankivell, Ennor, Aumua
              Telea, Lam, Love, ZSullivan

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                So, 36 for the AB squad and 26 for the ABs XV with some crossover seems the intel. But,...
                I struggle to see the need for 36 ABs, so I'm going for 34 and 28 - you can promote a couple as you see fit.

                Otherwise - I reckon the ABs will be pretty predictable.

                de Groot, Bower, Tu'ungafasi
                Sami T., Taylor, Coles
                Lomax, Laulala, Newell
                Retallick, Whitelock, SBarrett, Vaaí
                Frizell, AIoane, Cane, Papali'i, Savea, Sotutu
                Smith, Christie, Fakatava
                Mo'unga, BBarrett,
                Havili, RTS, ALB, RIoane
                Clarke, Fainga'anuku, Jordan, Reece, JBarrett, Perofeta

                So, an additional 28 man squad, that might have to be a bit front row heavy, given there's a few outside backs sure to be available from the ABs. Injuries might preclude a couple.

                Ross, Williams, Hodgman
                Aumua, McAlister, Thompson
                Taávao, Jager, Franks (maybe/maybe not for Owen)
                Dickson, Tuipolotou, Strange,
                Sowakula, Harmon, Jacobson, Mikaele-Tu'u
                Weber, Perenara, Roigard
                McKenzie, Gatland
                Nankivell, Ennor, Aumua
                Telea, Lam, Love, ZSullivan

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                @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                  @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                  Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

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                    @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                    Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                    Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

                    Yeah my thoughts on halfback too. I haven't seen a great amount of npc but what I've seen of Perenara and Love they're not exactly setting the world on fire.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                      @Bones yeah you'd hope they'd look at someone younger over TJ, Weber is the senior player to mentor them, and Moorby over Love for me.

                      Not sure Ta'avao will be right, looked a nasty knock last night

                      Yeah my thoughts on halfback too. I haven't seen a great amount of npc but what I've seen of Perenara and Love they're not exactly setting the world on fire.

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                      @Bones TJ was very good today, but he should be at NPC.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Chris-B is there no one at least on a parr with Perenara? And surely there's better than Love?

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                        @Bones TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks. I don't think we're going to be picking our 6th halfback or tighthead over TJ or Owen for RWC so keep them involved.

                        I like Love, man 🙂 - he's a little bit extraneous (and my 28th pick), because a specialist wing might be more useful, but WTF!

                        Could be miles out - hard to know who the selectors have in their sights - but, it's a very important selection to see who they think is the next tier.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Bones TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks. I don't think we're going to be picking our 6th halfback or tighthead over TJ or Owen for RWC so keep them involved.

                          I like Love, man 🙂 - he's a little bit extraneous (and my 28th pick), because a specialist wing might be more useful, but WTF!

                          Could be miles out - hard to know who the selectors have in their sights - but, it's a very important selection to see who they think is the next tier.

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

                          TJ is a slightly milder version of me picking Owen Franks

                          That's why Weber is there... but he actually looks like he could step up 😉

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                            Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                              Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                              @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

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                                Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

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                                @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

                                Stevenson should be in the AB XV, IMO.

                                I'd be his biggest critic over the years, but barring outside circumstances he definitely should be.

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                  @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                  Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                    @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                    Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

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                                    @gt12 Stevenson is contracted until 2023. He deserves to be selected.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                      Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                                      @cgrant rumours he might be off to league...so that'll put a fork in him if he is

                                      Is his contract up for renewal? That’s what this smells like to me. It could just be this ‘rumor’ is his representatives saying if he’s not selected in the AB15 they are open to offers?

                                      It would seem a pretty weak attempt. It's not like he's a marquis player who would have teams banging down the door.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @gt12 Stevenson is contracted until 2023. He deserves to be selected.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @gt12 Stevenson is contracted until 2023. He deserves to be selected.

                                        If Nogusta says Dolphins then that is generally very good sauce.
                                        On form though he has been a stand out throughout the year and I agree

                                        Probably also depends on what happens to Perofeta/DMac unless they play him on a wing

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @gt12 Stevenson is contracted until 2023. He deserves to be selected.

                                          If Nogusta says Dolphins then that is generally very good sauce.
                                          On form though he has been a stand out throughout the year and I agree

                                          Probably also depends on what happens to Perofeta/DMac unless they play him on a wing

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                                          @bayimports The Dolphins aren't having much luck signing players at the moment. 😉

                                          My point is that Stevenson would need to get an early release.

                                          Perofeta should be selected for the AB XV so he can play 2 games at 1st 5, rather than a single test for the ABs (vs Japan). Stevenson could be at fullback.

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