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All Blacks XV 2022

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    #705

    I'm still struggling to understand how bang average Gardiner & Tuipoluto deserve a spot - but not the outstanding Ah Kuoi & McWhannell, they have been exceptional lately. I'm predicting they will have standout seasons in SR next year.

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    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

      I'm still struggling to understand how bang average Gardiner & Tuipoluto deserve a spot - but not the outstanding Ah Kuoi & McWhannell, they have been exceptional lately. I'm predicting they will have standout seasons in SR next year.

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      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks XV:

      McWhannell

      I hope he is injury free next year - could overtake Vaa'i.

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      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

        I'm still struggling to understand how bang average Gardiner & Tuipoluto deserve a spot - but not the outstanding Ah Kuoi & McWhannell, they have been exceptional lately. I'm predicting they will have standout seasons in SR next year.

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        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks XV:

        I'm still struggling to understand how bang average Gardiner & Tuipoluto deserve a spot, but not the outstanding Ah Kuoi & McWhannell, they have been exceptional lately, I'm predicting they will have standout seasons in SR next year.

        Tuipulotu was outstanding for Auckland in the quarter final vs Harbour and one of the only Auckland players to play well in the semi final vs Wellington.

        I understand that he has underwhelmed at test level but as a 42 test All Black he is always likely to be in the mix 12 months out from a RWC in a squad like this.

        I'm a McWhannell fan but he's barely played Super Rugby. After injury riddled 2020 and 2021 I think he debuted for the Chiefs this year and only played 3 games.

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          #708

          Naitoa Ah Kuoi as a 6... is everything Liam Squire was but 5x better, he looks built for test rugby, he honestly could become another Jerry Collins for us, he is going to fold guys at int. level, 23 years and 196cm/116kg, I really hope he eventuates as NZ's long-term 6 after 2023...

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          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

            Naitoa Ah Kuoi as a 6... is everything Liam Squire was but 5x better, he looks built for test rugby, he honestly could become another Jerry Collins for us, he is going to fold guys at int. level, 23 years and 196cm/116kg, I really hope he eventuates as NZ's long-term 6 after 2023...

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            @kiwi_expat Hope he gets a good crack at 6 for the Chiefs - to me he looks better suited to 6 than Vaai or Finau.

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            • TimT Tim

              Guys, I really think that @ARHS might just have been joking about selecting an ancient and mediocre Canterbury player ...

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              @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

              Guys, I really think that @ARHS might just have been joking about selecting an ancient and mediocre Canterbury player ...

              Yep. I am staggered by a few selections but prop and lock most of all. Felt sure Ollie Norris and Hodgman were lock ins and either Mcwhannell or MSR would make it unless Holland promoted.
              Am thinking Roigard is like for like replacement for Fakatava, only better.
              Happy on the 3 promoted but mystified by xv selections.
              Thought they said it was based on form of players they were watching but if only watching Crusaders forwards and Blues backs they will be coaching next year then it makes sense...

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @booboo several in the squad meet that criteria IMO.

                @Steven-Harris you must be stoked with that!

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

                @booboo several in the squad meet that criteria IMO.

                Particularly the Cantabrian criteria, which Heinz slam dunks.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @kiwi_expat Hope he gets a good crack at 6 for the Chiefs - to me he looks better suited to 6 than Vaai or Finau.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                  @kiwi_expat Hope he gets a good crack at 6 for the Chiefs - to me he looks better suited to 6 than Vaai or Finau.

                  I think that will be the plan for Ah Kuoi. Gives the Chiefs an extra lineout option and he is mobile.

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                  • broughieB broughie

                    @Tim In all fairness in his last couple of games he has been unremarkable.

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                    @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

                    @Tim In all fairness in his last couple of games he has been unremarkable.

                    The whole Canterbury pack the last couple of games have been unremarkable. Problem with Auckland was with the tighthead side, unfortunately Renata had a shocking season with his technique. I also.queationed whether the locks were.doing.much in the way of support

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                      @ARHS Will Heinz has been quality for Canterbury. Is there any likelihood he will stay on and play for the Crusaders. It would be three years since he last played for England.

                      Yes he has signed for 2023

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                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                      @ARHS Will Heinz has been quality for Canterbury. Is there any likelihood he will stay on and play for the Crusaders. It would be three years since he last played for England.

                      Yes he has signed for 2023

                      Crusaders?

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                        @ARHS Will Heinz has been quality for Canterbury. Is there any likelihood he will stay on and play for the Crusaders. It would be three years since he last played for England.

                        Yes he has signed for 2023

                        Crusaders?

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                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                        @ARHS Will Heinz has been quality for Canterbury. Is there any likelihood he will stay on and play for the Crusaders. It would be three years since he last played for England.

                        Yes he has signed for 2023

                        Crusaders?

                        Yep

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks XV:

                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                          @ARHS Will Heinz has been quality for Canterbury. Is there any likelihood he will stay on and play for the Crusaders. It would be three years since he last played for England.

                          Yes he has signed for 2023

                          Crusaders?

                          Yep

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                          @Chris That is a very good signing especially with the departure of Bryn Hall to Japan.

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                            @Chris That is a very good signing especially with the departure of Bryn Hall to Japan.

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

                            @Chris That is a very good signing especially with the departure of Bryn Hall to Japan.

                            He is replacing TTT.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @KiwiMurph yeah I don’t mind the Gatland selection and he could do a job ala Donald should Mo’unga, Beaudie, Perofeta, DMac (and probably Jordie) all get a visit from Suzie

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

                              @KiwiMurph yeah I don’t mind the Gatland selection and he could do a job ala Donald should Mo’unga, Beaudie, Perofeta, DMac (and probably Jordie) all get a visit from Suzie

                              Your post isn't as satirical as it first appears

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                              • number9N number9

                                @broughie said in All Blacks XV:

                                @Tim In all fairness in his last couple of games he has been unremarkable.

                                The whole Canterbury pack the last couple of games have been unremarkable. Problem with Auckland was with the tighthead side, unfortunately Renata had a shocking season with his technique. I also.queationed whether the locks were.doing.much in the way of support

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                                @number9. You might be right and certainly Wellington dominated them yesterday. It's just been my observation that his work around the park has tailed off. Not knocking him for his scrummaging.

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                                  Bell and McAllister both unlikely for NZ XV due to injury. Sounds like a badly broken toe and an ACL issue...

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                                    Bell and McAllister both unlikely for NZ XV due to injury. Sounds like a badly broken toe and an ACL issue...

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                                    @friedrugby who is next cab(s) off the rank?

                                    Thompson?

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                                      @booboo Eklund as another option if they need 2?

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

                                        Who is next cab(s) off the rank?

                                        Thompson?

                                        And Eklund.

                                        Who knows though.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @booboo Eklund as another option if they need 2?

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @booboo Eklund as another option if they need 2?

                                          Who? ...

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