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All Blacks 2022

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  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

    After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

    Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

    Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

    People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

    Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

    After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

    You mean the ABs seem to have some forward momentum without Scott Robertson in charge?

    Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

    Ryan? Is this the same bloke who was singly responsible for the Ellis Park & Eden Park wins - with Foster having nothing to do with it as Head Coach?

    Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour.

    Seriously impressed with your ability to ascertain the AB team-sheet based on a 2 second clip from reactions in the coaches box. That's a really impressive skill.

    This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

    And the really, really worst bit is we won't be able to blame it on Foster.

    People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders

    Thanks for reminding us as we'd probably have forgotten otherwise

    With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

    "selectorial role"? But we were all told by so many people that AB team selections (strangely enough only the bad ones) were made by Foster and any and all good selection were forced on Foster by injuries. I feel deceived, deceived I tell you!

    Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

    Ah. I understand. Your observation that Jason Ryan got a bit more excited than Schmidt or Foster in the coaches box when Taylor scored his try is the final, absolute and definitive proof that Foster should be sacked.

    Yours in satire

    Vic

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

      From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour.

      That seems a rather long bow you are drawing.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

      From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour.

      That seems a rather long bow you are drawing.

      My guess is that he was a bit closer to understanding Taylor's 'problems' and his battles to regain form. He was pleased for him.

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      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

        After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

        Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

        Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

        People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

        Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

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        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

        From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour.

        or he's just a forwards coach that loves one of the fatties getting over the line and....or thats a normal reaction to a try by someone who loves some code and hasn't become jaded yet.....both just as if not more likely i would think

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        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

          After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

          Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

          Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

          People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

          Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

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          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

          After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

          Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

          Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

          People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

          Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

          I think we both agree Kennedy was shot by CIA operatives from the grassy knoll.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

            After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

            Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

            Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

            People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

            Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

            I think we both agree Kennedy was shot by CIA operatives from the grassy knoll.

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            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

            After the initial euphoria of Jason Ryan getting the forwards going better I think there is some worrying signs developing.

            Firstly this the selection that he was seemingly behind of the All Black 15. Dominant Gardener shouldn't make a Crusaders first choice 23 how the hell he got selected in this team is beyond me and can only be bias from Ryan.

            Secondly I went back and watched the highlights of the Eden Park Wallaby game. And something I didn't notice at the time was the massive celebration by Ryan (compared to the other 2 coaches) when Cody Taylor scored his try. From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour. This would be a huge injustice to the form of Samisoni Taukei'aho and will blunt the All Black forward's ability to out muscle the Northern hemisphere packs.

            People forget that Scott Robertson was in charge of the Crusaders and the primary selector and Ryan was more just a coach. With the All Blacks due to Foster's incompetence Ryan has been thrust into more of a selectorial role which I don't think he has the experience to handle yet.

            Even though the changes in assistant coach have reaped some initial positive reward I can see troubles ahead once the honeymoon Is over and it all comes down to Foster still being there when he should have been replaced by Scott Robertson.

            I think we both agree Kennedy was shot by *TIME TRAVELLING CIA operatives from the grassy knoll.

            FIFY

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:

              From his reaction I would guess now that Taylor will be his first choice starting hooker on the Northern hemisphere tour.

              That seems a rather long bow you are drawing.

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              @KiwiMurph Almost like Kremlinology.

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              • TimT Away
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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

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                • TimT Tim

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                  A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                    A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

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                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                    A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

                    Says the defence coach who has been there half a decade and has major question marks.....

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                      A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

                      Says the defence coach who has been there half a decade and has major question marks.....

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                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                      A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

                      Says the defence coach who has been there half a decade and has major question marks.....

                      thats why I said According to McLeod more a dig at him than the players in my post.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130270717/all-blacks-are-not-quick-learners-scott-mcleods-note-of-caution-as-japan-test-awaits

                        A bit damming, they have short attention spans according to McLeod,and have to be constantly reminded of defence patterns/ideas.

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                        @Chris haha, these are professional players with the ability to work in other defence structures, they enter your environment and struggle....

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                          As an educator, if one or two of the students don't understand, generally, it is not the explanation/content. If most or all of the students have trouble, then that is entirely on me and the shithouse way I have explained things.......

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Chris haha, these are professional players with the ability to work in other defence structures, they enter your environment and struggle....

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Chris haha, these are professional players with the ability to work in other defence structures, they enter your environment and struggle....

                            Was thinking the same thing.The Crusaders and Blues defence structures were pretty decent in SR,with a lot of the same players in those environments,It seems to me he is high lighting his own deficiencies.

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                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1584724164854034432

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1584724164854034432

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                                @KiwiMurph Any word on if that is for the duration of the tour?

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @KiwiMurph Any word on if that is for the duration of the tour?

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                                  @Tim No word that i've seen.

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                                    Does this mean Stevenson is into the AB XV? Guess it depends how long Telea is called up for.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @KiwiMurph Any word on if that is for the duration of the tour?

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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @KiwiMurph Any word on if that is for the duration of the tour?

                                      yea it is

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                                        If Tima is still touring with Tonga the reason must be more personal.

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                                          https://www.allblacks.com/news/whitelock-en-route-to-join-all-blacks-in-japan/

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