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  • C chchfanatic

    @mariner4life haters going to hate no matter what.
    What has he failed at so far. We have to give him a chance after work cup. Do I think they will , No.
    I wonder if foster knows he’s a shit coach.

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    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

    @mariner4life haters going to hate no matter what.
    What has he failed at so far. We have to give him a chance after work cup. Do I think they will , No.
    I wonder if foster knows he’s a shit coach.

    Not sure how that's a reply to me but you do you

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Love how surf jesus will not only magically make NZ players better than they are

      But also instantly reverse the enormous improvement in rugby among the top 10-12 nations

      What a coach. What a human.

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      @mariner4life said in Foster:

      Love how surf jesus will not only magically make NZ players better than they are

      But also instantly reverse the enormous improvement in rugby among the top 10-12 nations

      What a coach. What a human.

      I hope they keep Foster as coach until 2030 its so amusing watching people try to defend him.
      I want to see Razor go to England,while the AB's are being knocked out in the QF's under Foster.And then probably give him 4 more years.
      It is got beyond a Joke how far The AB's will fall under the Clown ringmaster.
      But we know they are really excited and learning lots of things.
      Crochet maybe or gardening because its sure not winning rugby or WC's.

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        Fern Logic
        Judging by what is written on the Fern, a lot of guys think Surf Jesus wins SR titles with a lot of shit average players. They "magically" look good because they play for the Crusaders apparently but are shit compared to "insert your own team's member here". However, according to some, Surf Jesus's "magical abilities" will somehow disappear at the international level.

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        • O Old Samurai Jack

          Fern Logic
          Judging by what is written on the Fern, a lot of guys think Surf Jesus wins SR titles with a lot of shit average players. They "magically" look good because they play for the Crusaders apparently but are shit compared to "insert your own team's member here". However, according to some, Surf Jesus's "magical abilities" will somehow disappear at the international level.

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          Crazy Horse
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          #3762

          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster:

          Fern Logic
          Judging by what is written on the Fern, a lot of guys think Surf Jesus wins SR titles with a lot of shit average players. They "magically" look good because they play for the Crusaders apparently but are shit compared to "insert your own team's member here". However, according to some, Surf Jesus's "magical abilities" will somehow disappear at the international level.

          Ah, that has been negated. Surf Jesus wins Super Titles with players that are good at Super Rugby but are shit at Test rugby. And the refs favour the Saders too.

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            You would have thought with Foster confirmed through to the World Cup and Razor confirmed that he'll have a crack at the job next year that it might have calmed things down.

            Clearly not.

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              Or, alternatively, surf jesus wins titles playing ourselves and the Australians.

              I think surf jesus is a good coach. I'm just so very bored of the hypothetical that he comes in and it's 2015 all over again being treated as fact.

              And the simple fact is, Ian Foster is taking us to the world cup so all the rest is just boring conjecture.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                Or, alternatively, surf jesus wins titles playing ourselves and the Australians.

                I think surf jesus is a good coach. I'm just so very bored of the hypothetical that he comes in and it's 2015 all over again being treated as fact.

                And the simple fact is, Ian Foster is taking us to the world cup so all the rest is just boring conjecture.

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                Crazy Horse
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                @mariner4life said in Foster:

                Or, alternatively, surf jesus wins titles playing ourselves and the Australians.

                I think surf jesus is a good coach. I'm just so very bored of the hypothetical that he comes in and it's 2015 all over again being treated as fact.

                And the simple fact is, Ian Foster is taking us to the world cup so all the rest is just boring conjecture.

                Are people saying it will 2015 all over again? I think Razor's name keeps popping up because the way things are at the moment he is probably the best available alternative to Foster. And an alternative to Foster is on a lot of wish lists.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @mariner4life said in Foster:

                  Or, alternatively, surf jesus wins titles playing ourselves and the Australians.

                  I think surf jesus is a good coach. I'm just so very bored of the hypothetical that he comes in and it's 2015 all over again being treated as fact.

                  And the simple fact is, Ian Foster is taking us to the world cup so all the rest is just boring conjecture.

                  Are people saying it will 2015 all over again? I think Razor's name keeps popping up because the way things are at the moment he is probably the best available alternative to Foster. And an alternative to Foster is on a lot of wish lists.

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                  mariner4life
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                  #3766

                  @Crazy-Horse ah yeah, they are

                  The coach isn't changing guys, get over it. You'll sleep better

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @nzzp said in Foster:

                    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                    There's only two ways you become AB coach.

                    1. You have a record of sustained winning at the highest level and bring in some new ideas. There is inevitably high expectations for what you will achieve. You will have some passionate cheer-leaders, and some detractors.

                    Didn't apply to Hansen either. But he was one of our most remarkable coaches - kept the Henry era going for another cycle.

                    He coached Wales with some distinction didn't he?

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                    Chester Draws
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                    @canefan said in Foster:

                    @nzzp said in Foster:

                    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                    There's only two ways you become AB coach.

                    1. You have a record of sustained winning at the highest level and bring in some new ideas. There is inevitably high expectations for what you will achieve. You will have some passionate cheer-leaders, and some detractors.

                    Didn't apply to Hansen either. But he was one of our most remarkable coaches - kept the Henry era going for another cycle.

                    He coached Wales with some distinction didn't he?

                    Hansen at least won a couple of NPCs.

                    Foster's literally never won any championship until the TRC -- which has only one competitive opponent in it.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Crazy-Horse ah yeah, they are

                      The coach isn't changing guys, get over it. You'll sleep better

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                      @mariner4life said in Foster:

                      @Crazy-Horse ah yeah, they are

                      The coach isn't changing guys, get over it. You'll sleep better

                      I don't recall anyone saying that it was a fact that if Razor took over the ABs we will win the world cup. But my memory ain't the best.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/10/27/scott-robertson-im-here-and-ready-for-the-all-blacks-job/

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                        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                        https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/10/27/scott-robertson-im-here-and-ready-for-the-all-blacks-job/

                        Haha. Slow news day aye.

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                          BerniesCorner
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                          There's no point mucking about. Appoint Razor after the final whistle blows at RWC 2023. Don't leave us hanging. Do it now.
                          NZR are pathetic and have done so much damage over last few years.

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            There's no point mucking about. Appoint Razor after the final whistle blows at RWC 2023. Don't leave us hanging. Do it now.
                            NZR are pathetic and have done so much damage over last few years.

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                            kiwi_expat
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                            @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

                            There's no point mucking about. Appoint Razor after the final whistle blows at RWC 2023. Don't leave us hanging. Do it now.
                            NZR are pathetic and have done so much damage over last few years.

                            The team seemed unprepared and lacked direction. Again. That's the Foster legacy. No wonder nobody is afraid of the ABs anymore. Used to be they had a plan and dared other teams to beat it. It's not down to different personnel, it is the coaching staff's inability to scheme for the players they have selected. Uninspiring all around.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @mariner4life said in Foster:

                              Love how surf jesus will not only magically make NZ players better than they are

                              But also instantly reverse the enormous improvement in rugby among the top 10-12 nations

                              What a coach. What a human.

                              I hope they keep Foster as coach until 2030 its so amusing watching people try to defend him.
                              I want to see Razor go to England,while the AB's are being knocked out in the QF's under Foster.And then probably give him 4 more years.
                              It is got beyond a Joke how far The AB's will fall under the Clown ringmaster.
                              But we know they are really excited and learning lots of things.
                              Crochet maybe or gardening because its sure not winning rugby or WC's.

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                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              I hope they keep Foster as coach until 2030 its so amusing watching people try to defend him.

                              It's not people defending Foster. It's people not believing the hype that a coach who's undoubtedly good at SR level but with minimal and patchy experience at international level - and zero experience at Test level - is the magic solution to restore the AB's to the glory days, that NZR knows he will do this but there is some secret illuminati plot within NZR to prevent it happening.

                              So you end up with stupid arguments that Foster should be sacked as he lost to a team we've never lost to before, but a different criteria should apply to Robertson as he needs time to settle into the role due to inexperience at Test level.

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                There's no point mucking about. Appoint Razor after the final whistle blows at RWC 2023. Don't leave us hanging. Do it now.
                                NZR are pathetic and have done so much damage over last few years.

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                                Dan54
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                                #3773

                                @BerniesCorner said in Foster:

                                There's no point mucking about. Appoint Razor after the final whistle blows at RWC 2023. Don't leave us hanging. Do it now.
                                NZR are pathetic and have done so much damage over last few years.

                                Why appoint Robertson, shouldn't they see who else is available, and then appoint whoever is considered best for job, if it's Robertson , it would be him, but don't discount Joseph , Schmidt, Pivac etc etc until we knpw who is available and then see who has best skills etc to do job.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  I hope they keep Foster as coach until 2030 its so amusing watching people try to defend him.

                                  It's not people defending Foster. It's people not believing the hype that a coach who's undoubtedly good at SR level but with minimal and patchy experience at international level - and zero experience at Test level - is the magic solution to restore the AB's to the glory days, that NZR knows he will do this but there is some secret illuminati plot within NZR to prevent it happening.

                                  So you end up with stupid arguments that Foster should be sacked as he lost to a team we've never lost to before, but a different criteria should apply to Robertson as he needs time to settle into the role due to inexperience at Test level.

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                                  Chris
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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  I hope they keep Foster as coach until 2030 its so amusing watching people try to defend him.

                                  It's not people defending Foster. It's people not believing the hype that a coach who's undoubtedly good at SR level but with minimal and patchy experience at international level - and zero experience at Test level - is the magic solution to restore the AB's to the glory days, that NZR knows he will do this but there is some secret illuminati plot within NZR to prevent it happening.

                                  So you end up with stupid arguments that Foster should be sacked as he lost to a team we've never lost to before, but a different criteria should apply to Robertson as he needs time to settle into the role due to inexperience at Test level.

                                  I hope they keep Foster it only reinforces how bad he is every test.

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                                  • P ploughboy

                                    @canefan said in Foster:

                                    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                    @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                    Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                    I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

                                    joesph /brown/mitchel sounds good

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                                    Billy Tell
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                                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                                    @canefan said in Foster:

                                    @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                    @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                    Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                    I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

                                    joesph /brown/mitchel sounds good

                                    I never ever want Mitchell anywhere near the ABs ever again.

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                                    • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                      @canefan said in Foster:

                                      @nzzp said in Foster:

                                      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                      There's only two ways you become AB coach.

                                      1. You have a record of sustained winning at the highest level and bring in some new ideas. There is inevitably high expectations for what you will achieve. You will have some passionate cheer-leaders, and some detractors.

                                      Didn't apply to Hansen either. But he was one of our most remarkable coaches - kept the Henry era going for another cycle.

                                      He coached Wales with some distinction didn't he?

                                      Hansen at least won a couple of NPCs.

                                      Foster's literally never won any championship until the TRC -- which has only one competitive opponent in it.

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                                      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                      @canefan said in Foster:

                                      @nzzp said in Foster:

                                      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                      There's only two ways you become AB coach.

                                      1. You have a record of sustained winning at the highest level and bring in some new ideas. There is inevitably high expectations for what you will achieve. You will have some passionate cheer-leaders, and some detractors.

                                      Didn't apply to Hansen either. But he was one of our most remarkable coaches - kept the Henry era going for another cycle.

                                      He coached Wales with some distinction didn't he?

                                      Hansen at least won a couple of NPCs.

                                      Foster's literally never won any championship until the TRC -- which has only one competitive opponent in it.

                                      So Foster has only won an international series, more than once, and has only one competitive oponent? You mean SA who has been beaten by Japan, or Australia , or Argentina.
                                      I not defending or advocating Foster, but try you have to use proper arguments!

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        @ploughboy said in Foster:

                                        @canefan said in Foster:

                                        @chchfanatic said in Foster:

                                        @Number-10 love for razors side to come out. It will one day. First he has world cups to win. Wether it’s with the all blacks or England.
                                        Why is NZR putting so much weight on Schmidt’s opinion. What has he ever won. If anyone listened to razors interview on Senz the other morning , then they’ll agree he’s the man for the job.

                                        I hope for our sake NRU have told him the job is his post RWC23.

                                        joesph /brown/mitchel sounds good

                                        I never ever want Mitchell anywhere near the ABs ever again.

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                                        • WingerW Winger

                                          @Number-10

                                          I can understand Cane being involved. And maybe Ardie as who knows the way Robertson would go. He might have found himself as a reserve

                                          And Smith is at the end of his career and would prefer what he knows. But why Whitelock?

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                                          @Winger said in Foster:

                                          @Number-10

                                          I can understand Cane being involved. And maybe Ardie as who knows the way Robertson would go. He might have found himself as a reserve

                                          And Smith is at the end of his career and would prefer what he knows. But why Whitelock?

                                          Maybe, just maybe they were saying what they thought, and were being honest?
                                          You know like some people are?

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