Orlando shooting + terrorism thread
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<p>Oh yeah.. poor Muslims.. my heart bleeds.</p>
<p>Must be horrible to have all those nasty words said about your religion. Much better to ahve bullets and bombs thrown at you.</p>
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<p>Islam just says to murder gays. How dare people criticise that?? Wont someone think of the poor people who follow such a hateful religion?</p>
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<p>If all else fails.. just blame Trump.</p>
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<p>you are behaving in exactly the way that makes people feel sorry for the majority of the muslim population. because, you know, despite all of them having done nothing wrong themselves and living peaceful lives, they get lumped in with the psychos by people like you.</p>
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<p>you are behaving in exactly the way that makes people feel sorry for the majority of the muslim population. because, you know, despite all of them having done nothing wrong themselves and living peaceful lives, they get lumped in with the psychos by people like you.</p>
<p>it's just bigotry, and it's disgusting.</p>
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<p>yeah yeah... attacking a religion is bigotry.Because you know.. people follow it... cool story. It is the regressive lefts knee jerk response to absolutely any criticism of Islam to accuse people of bigotry and or Islamophobia. They make those terms just lose meaning.</p>
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<p>The religion Muslims follow is hateful, it preaches murder, it preaches discrimination, repression and slavery. I reserve my disdain for the ideology of Islam. I know there are lots of apologists out there who cannot handle the religion being criticised, I find that support disgusting, I find any ideology that preaches hate and murder and is considered beyond questioning and those that appease it disgusting.</p>
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<p>But of course feel free to fall, back on the straw man argument of "But not all Muslims kill and murder!" Just because nobody has said they do.. dont let that stop you mounting your high horse and screeching BIGOTRY!!!</p> -
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The religion Muslims follow is hateful, it preaches murder, it preaches discrimination, repression and slavery. I reserve my disdain for the ideology of Islam. I know there are lots of apologists out there who cannot handle the religion being criticised, I find that support disgusting, I find any ideology that preaches hate and murder and is considered beyond questioning and those that appease it disgusting.<br></p></blockquote>
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Utterly wrong. Those things are WRITTEN in the Quran and Hadith, but they are only PREACHED by those who choose to do so.<br><br>
Just like the many, many branches of Christianity follow the same book but choose to use the bits they like. Same as Judaism.<br><br>
When someone makes statements in line with forcing Muslims to eat a bacon sandwich while drawing a cartoon of Mohammed, they're no longer attacking the ideology, they're being a willfully ignorant fluffybunny. -
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Utterly wrong. Those things are WRITTEN in the Quran and Hadith, but they are only PREACHED by those who choose to do so.<br><br>
Just like the many, many branches of Christianity follow the same book but choose to use the bits they like. Same as Judaism.<br><br>
When someone makes statements in line with forcing Muslims to eat a bacon sandwich while drawing a cartoon of Mohammed, they're no longer attacking the ideology, they're being a willfully ignorant fluffybunny.</p>
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<p>No they are illustrating the zealousness and stupidity of a religion.</p>
<p>Impressive dancing on the head of a pin, get back to me when you see a Muslim preaching that the Quran and Hadiths are wrong.</p>
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<p>Islam needs a reformation, but that wont happen until the ideology is open to criticism.. and sadly that wont be happening any time time soon as the stupid appeasing piston wristed gibbons in the west have way to much of a hang up about criticising it... </p> -
<p>It is definitely wilful ignorance on the part of the appeasers....</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="592879" data-time="1467233152">
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<p>yeah yeah... attacking a religion is bigotry.Because you know.. people follow it... cool story. It is the regressive lefts knee jerk response to absolutely any criticism of Islam to accuse people of bigotry and or Islamophobia. They make those terms just lose meaning.</p>
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<p>The religion Muslims follow is hateful, it preaches murder, it preaches discrimination, repression and slavery. I reserve my disdain for the ideology of Islam. I know there are lots of apologists out there who cannot handle the religion being criticised, I find that support disgusting, I find any ideology that preaches hate and murder and is considered beyond questioning and those that appease it disgusting.</p>
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<p>But of course feel free to fall, back on the straw man argument of "But not all Muslims kill and murder!" Just because nobody has said they do.. dont let that stop you mounting your high horse and screeching BIGOTRY!!!</p>
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<p>you cross the line between attacking the doctrine and the people more often than not, you frequently make blanket statements on muslims, and you think rules should be applied to all muslims because of the actions of a few.</p>
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<p>you cross the line between attacking the doctrine and the people more often than not, you frequently make blanket statements on muslims, and you think rules should be applied to all muslims because of the actions of a few.</p>
<p>that is pretty much dictionary definition bigotry. screech screech. </p>
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<p>Now you are just making stuff up to suit your narrative. I am very careful to attack the ideology.</p>
<p>It would seem you are equally careful to ignore what people say and just make stuff up to suit your desire to appease....</p>
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<p>All else fails.. just yell bigot.. ever the way of the regressive left.</p>
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Would you like to post .. lets say 10 blanket statements I have made about Muslims? According to your narrative I do it often, so it wont be hard. heck is 10 to difficult for you... lets start off with just a few then.</p>
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<p>Unless of course like your regressive left buddies you are just making shit up and yelling bigot to just shut down discussion?</p> -
<p>Stop hiding / deleting my fucking posts.</p>
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<p>It was done last time I slapped Baron silly for picking an argument when there wasn't one. Still not happy about that.</p>
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<p>nah, it's gone man</p>
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<p>I deleted the duplicate.</p>
<p>Something might have gone awry with it. I don't delete posts, I hide them so other mods can still see them. If was going to delete posts out of spite in this thread... you think I would have chosen that one and not reprobates? Seriously?</p>
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<p>If you don't want posts deleted, stop posting stuff that breaks TSF rules.</p>
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<p>I can assure other mods have hidden my posts and will do so again, just as I have theirs,.... but you know.. you wouldn't know as you cannot see them!</p>
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<p>I also usually post in the mod forum explaining the thread and reason so other mods can check it out. </p>
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<p>You seem to think I am the only mod who thinks that a good number of your posts cross the line. Good luck with that. You have been banned before, and I argued against it at the time, luckily for you most of the mods that thought you were a complete piston wristed gibbon are no longer very active. I hope they come back. </p>
<p>Usually I wouldn't bother pointing out the value of other posters posts, those in glass houses, but if you want to discuss moderating, perhaps you need to look at yourself before anything else.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="592950" data-time="1467246517">
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<p>To be fair if we all stopped posting shit the fern would cease to exist.</p>
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<p>To be fair I edited my post to account for that.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="592905" data-time="1467239909">
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<p>Now you are just making stuff up to suit your narrative. I am very careful to attack the ideology.</p>
<p>It would seem you are equally careful to ignore what people say and just make stuff up to suit your desire to appease....</p>
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<p>All else fails.. just yell bigot.. ever the way of the regressive left.</p>
<p>Would you like to post .. lets say 10 blanket statements I have made about Muslims? According to your narrative I do it often, so it wont be hard. heck is 10 to difficult for you... lets start off with just a few then.</p>
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<p>Unless of course like your regressive left buddies you are just making shit up and yelling bigot to just shut down discussion?</p>
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<p>i'm not going to waste time doing that, but off the top of my head in the last page or so - 'poor muslims...'; nick's reference to your previous 'eat bacon and draw a picture of mohammed' crap; 'won't someone think of the poor people who follow...'.</p>
<p>those are simply attacks on largely decent people - why shouldn't we feel sorry for decent people who are being treated badly because others can't separate doctrine and people? you are saying that they shouldn't get any sympathy because they are muslim - it is bigotry.</p>
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<p>if that's you being careful i wouldn't like to see you being careless.</p>
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<p>note: i agree that people being killed is worse than anyone being persecuted over their religion, but that does not make it right - and it is not one or the other.</p>
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<p>note 2: the victims being largely muslim, i.e. istanbul, seems to provoke a bit of silence from everyone eh? </p>
