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    Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

    Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

    Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

      Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

      Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

      Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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      @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

      Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

      Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

      Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

      Yep pretty much sums up the difference, results do count when rating coaches abilities unless you are on the NZR Board.

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        Has anyone considered if maybe Wayne Smith might possibly take a consulting job for next year? Just to tide him over for a few months?

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        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

          Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

          Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

          Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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          @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

          Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

          Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

          Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

          yeah what a legend 277 caps in baa team. only three havnt played internation rugby in the starting team against 116 in nz team.against 6 Abs that two had 83 caps combinded,.
          if you carnt get that team organized you would be pretty poor

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          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

            Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

            Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

            Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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            @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

            Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

            Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

            Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

            So you must of been bloody impressed with all the Baabaa's coaches that have beaten test teams. Poms lost by 52-21 to Baabaas,who then beat Wallabies in a series this year.
            I a little amused that we all saying a Razor coached team, and wonder why people say we kiwis are arrogant when the team was also coached by O'Gara, who most press and kiwis seem to conviniently overlook/ignore! God almighty we do make a rod for our own backs at times don't we? And there is no apparent criticism of the AB XV coach Leon MacDonald?
            This is what coaching Baabaas is according to Razor:
            It is great to be involved,” he said. “You meet a whole new group of guys, you jog around the field, make a couple of calls up and then go and trust your instincts and play.
            I have seen Babaas beat a lot of test teams, not a basically 3rd team etc, hell they have knocked over the Boks ,, Ireland .Argentina , Fiji etc just in last 10 years.
            I a bit of a fan of Razor as a coach, but some coaches have coached against much better teams with same amount of preparation, and done a lot better.

            Just out of interest we not only ones pissed at coach. Boks coach is copping plenty of shit, and Rennie is also copping plenty, there even talk of a review of his job by RA. Eddie Jones is copping it pretty big,as is Wayne Pivac, there are not many test coaches that are seemingly coaching to the standard of their teams 'supporters'

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            • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

              Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

              Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

              Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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              @kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.

              A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.

                A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.

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                @Bones said in Foster:

                @kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.

                A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.

                I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.
                I can’t wait to go smash England this Weekend and win the WC in 2023 done deal under our present HC.
                Extend Foster through to 2031 we must be able to get through the qualifying to make it to the WC in 2027 and 2031.
                Although under Foster I do fear the Cayman Islands.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.

                  A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.

                  I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                  That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.
                  I can’t wait to go smash England this Weekend and win the WC in 2023 done deal under our present HC.
                  Extend Foster through to 2031 we must be able to get through the qualifying to make it to the WC in 2027 and 2031.
                  Although under Foster I do fear the Cayman Islands.

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                  @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

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                    @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

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                    @Bones said in Foster:

                    @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                    not funny,a fucking miracle.
                    If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                    But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                      not funny,a fucking miracle.
                      If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                      But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

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                      #4103

                      @Chris said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                      not funny,a fucking miracle.
                      If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                      But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                      Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @Bones said in Foster:

                        @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                        not funny,a fucking miracle.
                        If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                        But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                        Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

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                        #4104

                        @Bones said in Foster:

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @Bones said in Foster:

                        @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                        not funny,a fucking miracle.
                        If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                        But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                        Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                        Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                        Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                        No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                        Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Bones said in Foster:

                          @kiwi_expat so close! And yet, it's really quite common for Baabaas to upset top test teams, so it should probably be pretty embarrassing for him that he hasn't put a century on the C team from a nation who is only ranked 3rd/4th.

                          A bunch of guys who will only make the top side for RWC if like 3 to 4 other players fall over. Well done Scott! Participation award.

                          I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                          That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.
                          I can’t wait to go smash England this Weekend and win the WC in 2023 done deal under our present HC.
                          Extend Foster through to 2031 we must be able to get through the qualifying to make it to the WC in 2027 and 2031.
                          Although under Foster I do fear the Cayman Islands.

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                          @Chris said in Foster:

                          I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                          That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.

                          Foster "“If you go back 12 months to the last two tests of the year, to where we tripped up in the north, both those tests we were in contention at the start of the last quarter but perhaps [we] didn’t show the composure that we showed today.

                          “That shows some good signs of growth. "

                          Yeah apparently a brave come back against a team ranked 9th in the world, who has never beaten us, shows that we've improved since last tour. Please, the only improvement is that the opposition this year are easy beats (who we haven't beaten easily). England will be a different kettle of fish.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                            @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                            A higher priority than getting the best out of his players and team?

                            based on 12 years of evidence as head coach of Chiefs & NZ he's failed at that too.

                            Yeah, but you and Gregor Paul are arguing that's less important than managing the media.

                            Actually, I recall an article interviewing Steve Hansen where he said near the end of his tenure he found the demands of managing the media etc getting increasingly difficult to balance time-wise with performance-driven coaching.

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                            @nostrildamus said in Foster:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                            @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                            A higher priority than getting the best out of his players and team?

                            based on 12 years of evidence as head coach of Chiefs & NZ he's failed at that too.

                            Yeah, but you and Gregor Paul are arguing that's less important than managing the media.

                            Actually, I recall an article interviewing Steve Hansen where he said near the end of his tenure he found the demands of managing the media etc getting increasingly difficult to balance time-wise with performance-driven coaching.

                            Might explain why the last few years of his tenure weren't that great results-wise then.

                            Probably wouldn't have made it past the RWC2019 Quarter-finals if he'd taken heed of @kiwi_expat & Gregor Paul's criticism of Foster on the subject..

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                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                              That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.

                              Foster "“If you go back 12 months to the last two tests of the year, to where we tripped up in the north, both those tests we were in contention at the start of the last quarter but perhaps [we] didn’t show the composure that we showed today.

                              “That shows some good signs of growth. "

                              Yeah apparently a brave come back against a team ranked 9th in the world, who has never beaten us, shows that we've improved since last tour. Please, the only improvement is that the opposition this year are easy beats (who we haven't beaten easily). England will be a different kettle of fish.

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                              @Machpants said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              I know right thank god we have the Fat controller leading us to glory.
                              That win over Scotland was awe inspiring.

                              Foster "“If you go back 12 months to the last two tests of the year, to where we tripped up in the north, both those tests we were in contention at the start of the last quarter but perhaps [we] didn’t show the composure that we showed today.

                              “That shows some good signs of growth. "

                              Yeah apparently a brave come back against a team ranked 9th in the world, who has never beaten us, shows that we've improved since last tour. Please, the only improvement is that the opposition this year are easy beats (who we haven't beaten easily). England will be a different kettle of fish.

                              Totally agree.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

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                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Chris said in Foster:

                                @Bones said in Foster:

                                @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.

                                Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new one.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                  not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                  If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                  But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                  Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                  Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                  Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                  No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                  Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

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                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Chris said in Foster:

                                  @Bones said in Foster:

                                  @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                  not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                  If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                  But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                  Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                  Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                  Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                  No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                  Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                  You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.

                                  And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...

                                  France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.

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                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Bones said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Bones said in Foster:

                                    @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                    not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                    If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                    But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                    Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                    Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                    Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                    No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                    Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                    You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.

                                    And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...

                                    France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.

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                                    @booboo said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Bones said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Bones said in Foster:

                                    @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                    not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                    If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                    But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                    Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                    Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                    Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                    No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                    Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                    You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.

                                    And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...

                                    France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.

                                    I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.

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                                      Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

                                      Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

                                      Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

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                                      @kiwi_expat said in Foster:

                                      Was flicking between the Barbarians match and the All Blacks. Really showed who is the coaching guru out of the 2 games, the difference in cohesion and tactics. We certainly shouldn't be giving Robertson any credit whatsoever for taking a rag-tag group and turning them into a winning team in two coaching sessions.

                                      Razor had 2, yes 2 training sessions with this team that beat a All Blacks B side, who had already been together for weeks and already had a win on tour. Took a group that haven't played together, from different countries and languages and beat a NZ XV team that had weeks of training together including another game. Then we flick to All Blacks with the Foster swapping players game after game with little clue of a game-plan. I certainly didn't waste much more time watching the aimless kicking and disorganized mess in Black.

                                      Also McDonald has had more failures than successes, always outsmarted by Robertson in head to heads. Razor does it his way and doesn't have to call in the likes of Schmidt and other international or ex-international coaches to help him out. McDonald seems to lack the technical skills that Robertson displays in his game-planning, strategy & team selections. NZRU adore Leon though, despite his limited success and his inability to counter Razor's pragmatic tactical nous and astute calculated game-plans.

                                      Yep astounding result from Razor and amazing insight from you. It was his inspiration that clearly caused Stevenson to bobble drop the ball that should have won the match and his tip to Lauret to make Makalio botch the last throw. And sheer genius to forge combinations with only 8 or so La Rochelle players. You can see it all so clearly. Totally outgunned the AB XV with their greater experience from several of the team having played most of a previous match and only a few of them arriving since the team got to the UK.

                                      Meanwhile the AB's second string lineup was too inept to go for a crowning try because they did not realise they were only 8 points ahead of an opponent they would have beaten by 50 with Razor coaching, despite them fielding their top lineup, which had troubled some other top 10 teams.

                                      You don't suppose Ronan O'Gara might have had some input somewhere?

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                        not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                        If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                        But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                        Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                        Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                        Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                        No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                        Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                        Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.

                                        Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new one.

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                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @Bones said in Foster:

                                        @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                        not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                        If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                        But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                        Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                        Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                        Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                        No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                        Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                        Anyone can beat anyone in the finals? Apart from England getting a sweet run when has that not been the case? That's not something brought about by Foster.

                                        Also, you didn't answer the question, just invented a new

                                        Of course it is Fosters fault, Have you not been reading this thread he is responsible for everything even the shortage of donuts.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @booboo said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Bones said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Bones said in Foster:

                                          @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                          not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                          If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                          But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                          Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                          Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                          Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                          No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                          Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                          You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.

                                          And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...

                                          France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.

                                          I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.

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                                          #4113

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @booboo said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Bones said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @Bones said in Foster:

                                          @Chris it's going to be fucking funny if we make the world cup final. No doubt it'll be due to Robertson having infiltrated international teams with poisonous IP a year out from the cup.

                                          not funny,a fucking miracle.
                                          If we win the WC under Foster I will be the first one to admit I was 100% wrong and Foster is a genius .As I still want us to win it really badly.
                                          But my head tells me he is not capable of getting us there.

                                          Do you think there's a side in world rugby that this AB team can't beat? Answers on a post card with a photo of the country, out of sides we haven't already beaten this year.

                                          Anyone can beat us on the day atm.
                                          Fuck Japan almost did and Scotland we could lose pool games at the WC the way this circus is travelling.
                                          No matter who we play in the QF onwards it would be less than 50/50 chance of winning.

                                          Do you you think we have improved enough since England knocked us out of the last WC to not see a repeat of that happening ?.

                                          You in politics? Answer the question you want to be asked not the one you actually were.

                                          And in answer, kinda, to @Bones we havent beaten France, Italy, any of the PIs, Chile, USA ...

                                          France could proves tricky, but reckon we have a starter's chance.

                                          I answer what I want to respond to not what you tell me to.

                                          Hah, not retarded at all. Just go a solo post then, no need to quote my question to you that you don't have the gumption to answer.

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