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    An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

    If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

      If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

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      @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

      If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

      The pieces are there to be in the 2023 RWC mix, just need to fit them together

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        I wonder how Robertson would have done coaching the Black Ferns. They might want a Female head coach in the future but until then it could be a testing ground for potential All Blacks coaches like the All Blacks XV is.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

          If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

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          @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

          If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

          I think they still need a world class defense coach, and soon.

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          • JCJ JC

            @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

            If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

            I think they still need a world class defense coach, and soon.

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            canefan
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            #4154

            @JC said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            An 8 point win against the Scots is par for the course. The last time we smacked them was in 2012, since then it's been an 8 point win in 2014 (with one of our best ever AB squads), a 5 point win in 2017, and then this 8 point win.

            If we manage to get it done against the English tomorrow then this EOYT has been a resounding success, and I'll happily give Foster credit for that. A good coaching group is so important, he's got that now and it does look like we're heading in the right direction with a much more settled lineup and only a few positions really still up for grabs. I'm pretty excited about this team now.

            I think they still need a world class defense coach, and soon.

            💯. Can't afford to ship soft points in tight games. Against Scotland and Japan we got off to good starts only to let them back in. We should be choking the life out of teams in that position

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            • nostrildamusN Online
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              Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
              Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

              Next question, is it arrogant of Robertson to only want to be a head coach?
              I think, given his record, that's his right. If that is a risk to his chances of coaching the ABs so be it.
              I'm trying to think of all the ex-NZ coaches coaching tier 1 opponents and no one seems to blame them for it apart from Deans(?) (and maybe Mitchell). Don't know but suspect Robertson coaching England might raise some hackles amongst Kiwi fans, or maybe everyone has moved on.

              I just hope the next coaching selection round is transparent, well-run, and fair.

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                https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

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                • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                  https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                  Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

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                  @TheMojoman well he has stated his preference is to coach the ABs but if that doesn't work out, other teams come into play.

                  That said, you'd hope as England are sounding out options now, NZR have learnt from 2019 when pretty much all the cabs had left the rank by the time we were ready to leave, and giving him a tap now...although he been burnt by that before...

                  Maybe NZR are waiting to see if FoZzIe wants to stay on before offering anything to Razor...just hope they communicate this to him that he just needs to wait until after the quarter/semi of the RWC and they'll know if they need him...

                  Seriously though, if Robinson fucks this next appointment up, surely he cant survive? You'd also think whoever the liaison or account manager from Silverlake must be onto it enough to ensure these sorts of things are being done properly?

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                  • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                    https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                    Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

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                    #4158

                    @TheMojoman said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                    Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

                    Henry just retired.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                      Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                      Next question, is it arrogant of Robertson to only want to be a head coach?
                      I think, given his record, that's his right. If that is a risk to his chances of coaching the ABs so be it.
                      I'm trying to think of all the ex-NZ coaches coaching tier 1 opponents and no one seems to blame them for it apart from Deans(?) (and maybe Mitchell). Don't know but suspect Robertson coaching England might raise some hackles amongst Kiwi fans, or maybe everyone has moved on.

                      I just hope the next coaching selection round is transparent, well-run, and fair.

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                      #4159

                      @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                      Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                      Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                      Um hate to be the one to break it to you, he's not undefeated as Barbarians coach they got pummelled by Harlequins 73-28, funnuly enough not reported much in NZ.

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                        Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                        Um hate to be the one to break it to you, he's not undefeated as Barbarians coach they got pummelled by Harlequins 73-28, funnuly enough not reported much in NZ.

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                        @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                        Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                        Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                        Um hate to be the one to break it to you, he's not undefeated as Barbarians coach they got pummelled by Harlequins 73-28, funnuly enough not reported much in NZ.

                        Less reality, more breakdancing please.

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                        • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                          https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                          Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

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                          @TheMojoman jamie joseph enters the room

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                            Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                            Um hate to be the one to break it to you, he's not undefeated as Barbarians coach they got pummelled by Harlequins 73-28, funnuly enough not reported much in NZ.

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                            @Dan54 reality smeality... still has a better record!

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                              @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              Robertson has won 6/6 super titles has he not? Given some of his crusaders have not always played to the same level in the ABs and the ABs now have one of his coaches is it not fair to say he is a good coach? Unbeaten Barbarians coach!
                              Then again, what is the influence and impact of Ronan O'Gara? But only at the Crusaders 2018-2019?

                              Um hate to be the one to break it to you, he's not undefeated as Barbarians coach they got pummelled by Harlequins 73-28, funnuly enough not reported much in NZ.

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                              @Dan54 actually I did know this but it didn't seem a serious game to me-a friendly. Plus they had Marler!

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @TheMojoman said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                                Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

                                Henry just retired.

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                                nostrildamus
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                                @Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @TheMojoman said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                                Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

                                Henry just retired.

                                Best coach Wayne Smith just retired ..

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                                  @TheMojoman jamie joseph enters the room

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                                  @ploughboy same applies to him, you hope NZR have reached out to him...although from the outside where he is, it probably looks like a done deal, again...

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                                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-11449279/amp/MIKE-BROWN-Scott-Robertson-perfect-Eddie-Jones-England-coach.html

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                                      The only thing that’s going to change between now and next November is how much money Razor is going to command. Hope they’ve already had him sign the contract

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @TheMojoman said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                                        Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

                                        Henry just retired.

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                                        @Kirwan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @TheMojoman said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/razor-edge-england-job/

                                        Hopefully this is rumor because I'd be gutted if we allow our best coach to slip through our fingers and coach England.

                                        Henry just retired.

                                        Henry was crap - he lost Test matches. Robertson's never lost one yet.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Dan54 reality smeality... still has a better record!

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                                          Dan54
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                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @Dan54 reality smeality... still has a better record!

                                          Lol mate, better record than who? I not sure what your point is, you giving him credit for beating Leon MacDonald coached team, but shrugging your shoulders when his team gets absolutely flogged againt Harlequins.

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