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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Warren Gatland returns to Wales. He will coach the side to the 2023 RWC with an option to extend if he wants to. I wonder if Bryn Gatland will join him?

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      Eddie must be bricking it following this news

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      • M Offline
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        Chiefs will be happy

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          Eddie must be bricking it following this news

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          Crucial
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          @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

          Eddie must be bricking it following this news

          Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.

          Musical chairs.

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          • M Machpants

            Chiefs will be happy

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            @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

            Chiefs will be happy

            It's not like he does much now anyway. Let Wales pick up the football.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

              I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

              Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

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              #2769

              @sparky said in RWC 2023:

              @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

              I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

              Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

              Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
              Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

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              • Dan54D Dan54

                @sparky said in RWC 2023:

                @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

                I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

                Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

                Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
                Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

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                @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.

                Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
                Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
                Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  @sparky said in RWC 2023:

                  @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

                  I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

                  Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

                  Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
                  Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

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                  #2771

                  @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                  @sparky said in RWC 2023:

                  @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

                  I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

                  Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

                  Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
                  Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

                  Fozzie still searching for his one.

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                    @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                    @sparky said in RWC 2023:

                    @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

                    I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

                    Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

                    Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
                    Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

                    Fozzie still searching for his one.

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                    #2772

                    @Higgins said in RWC 2023:

                    @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                    @sparky said in RWC 2023:

                    @Dan54 Both unions have come in for criticism for not managing the pennies well during Covid.

                    I think Wales will offer the job to Gatland and/or Howley.

                    Given the England review panel has on it Phil De Glanville, Ian McGeehan and Jonathan Webb (all connected to Bath Rugby which Bothwick came through), it looks like Steve Bothwick has the inside running to be England coach in 2023.

                    Yep, well it seems you right with Wales too mate. I just knew thet were struggling fairlt badly, so figured they would maybe not have cash to buy out contracts. Then of course they may not of had to anyway.
                    Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job. I hope it goes well anyway, as I always have a soft spot for Wales ,who after the Boks are probably my favourite team outside the ABs. Just because the country is like NZ and always embraced the game.

                    Fozzie still searching for his one.

                    Never too late for learnings

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                    • mariner4lifeM Online
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                      #2773

                      heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

                      crazy shit.

                      I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

                        crazy shit.

                        I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2774

                        @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                        heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

                        crazy shit.

                        I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

                        Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.

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                          Some of Pivac's assistants were from Gatland's tenure (e.g., Stephen Jones), so maybe a pragmatic decision to avoid too much disruption and cost.

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                          • mariner4lifeM Online
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                            #2776

                            i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

                            i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                              Eddie must be bricking it following this news

                              Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.

                              Musical chairs.

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                              JC
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2777

                              @Crucial said in NH International Rugby:

                              @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                              Eddie must be bricking it following this news

                              Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.

                              Musical chairs.

                              Hasn’t Eddie been linked to Rugby USA? I know they’re broke but Eddie will be flush from his severance won’t he?

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

                                i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

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                                JC
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                                #2778

                                @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

                                i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

                                Or even further back to when England didn’t need backs except to kick goals. 30 lineouts, 30 rolling mauls, 20 scrums with 40 resets, 1 try, 5 penalties and a droppie per game. Job done.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                                  Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.

                                  Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
                                  Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
                                  Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.

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                                  #2779

                                  @Crucial said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                                  Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.

                                  Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
                                  Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
                                  Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.

                                  Yep ann
                                  d I think another thing some coaches fall over is not being the best selectors, where as in a super they have a fixed squad, and that is opposite problem maybe.
                                  Always felt that was Robboe Deans downfall with Aus.

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    Eddie must be bricking it following this news

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                                    @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Eddie must be bricking it following this news

                                    Yeah what was his salary again? Over a mill. He'll be gutted to get an ambassador/pundit gig for the world cup to stack on top of that just to pass the time.

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                                      #2781

                                      Ms cato No2 has said the scuttlebutt is that Borthwick is taking over the England job. Not sure of the sauce and I've seen nothing in the news as yet.

                                      Edit: She has it from The Good, the Bad and the Rugby and "as being confirmed".

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                                        Multiple sources saying Jones is gone.

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                                        • MajorPomM Away
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                                          #2783

                                          Confirmed. Sacked.

                                          https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

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