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    heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

    crazy shit.

    I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

      crazy shit.

      I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

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      @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

      heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

      crazy shit.

      I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

      Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.

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        Some of Pivac's assistants were from Gatland's tenure (e.g., Stephen Jones), so maybe a pragmatic decision to avoid too much disruption and cost.

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          i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

          i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

            Eddie must be bricking it following this news

            Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.

            Musical chairs.

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            @Crucial said in NH International Rugby:

            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

            Eddie must be bricking it following this news

            Nah, he gets to return to Oz or back to Japan.

            Musical chairs.

            Hasn’t Eddie been linked to Rugby USA? I know they’re broke but Eddie will be flush from his severance won’t he?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

              i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

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              @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

              i for one hope England follow this "lets go back to success" ex-girlfriend shit

              i can't wait for Sir Clive to get the job.

              Or even further back to when England didn’t need backs except to kick goals. 30 lineouts, 30 rolling mauls, 20 scrums with 40 resets, 1 try, 5 penalties and a droppie per game. Job done.

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                @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.

                Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
                Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
                Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.

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                @Crucial said in NH International Rugby:

                @Dan54 said in RWC 2023:

                Interesting isn't it for all that Gatland who has no success at all with Chiefs is preferred choice, and proves point some very good coaches are better at different levels, as there is qyuite different skills required for each job.

                Starkly shown when Gats took over the Chiefs. Super Rugby is very different to the test game and he found that out fast.
                Winning the game is the sole aim in tests. Managing a Super squad full of talented players all with desires to showcase their skills for higher honours is a different game.
                Test rugby isn't so much a step up as a step into a different world. Many capable coaches can't find the formula for the players at their disposal to look good in tests. I guess that Gatland did with Warrenball.

                Yep ann
                d I think another thing some coaches fall over is not being the best selectors, where as in a super they have a fixed squad, and that is opposite problem maybe.
                Always felt that was Robboe Deans downfall with Aus.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  Eddie must be bricking it following this news

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                  @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                  Eddie must be bricking it following this news

                  Yeah what was his salary again? Over a mill. He'll be gutted to get an ambassador/pundit gig for the world cup to stack on top of that just to pass the time.

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                    Ms cato No2 has said the scuttlebutt is that Borthwick is taking over the England job. Not sure of the sauce and I've seen nothing in the news as yet.

                    Edit: She has it from The Good, the Bad and the Rugby and "as being confirmed".

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                      Multiple sources saying Jones is gone.

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                        Confirmed. Sacked.

                        https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

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                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                          @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                          heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

                          crazy shit.

                          I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

                          Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.

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                          @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                          @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                          heaps of social media chat Eddie will follow today.

                          crazy shit.

                          I find going back to Gatland hilarious for some reason

                          Certainly a very odd thing to do and I’m not sure it’s the right decision. A lot is made of his success with Wales, which is undeniable but there was an alarming lack of consistency in there too. Champions one year and 5th the next sort of thing.

                          Wales would take that right now. Beats being whacked by Georgia at home and falling to 9th in the world. And it could be 11th soon as Italy and Japan have them in their sights. Samoa would fancy them right now too 😉

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                            The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
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                              Confirmed. Sacked.

                              https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

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                              @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

                              Confirmed. Sacked.

                              https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

                              Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.

                              I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.

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                                The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:

                                The RFU have confirmed that Richard Cockerill will take over the day-to-day running of the team in the interim until a new coach is appointed.
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                                Yeah, but Sir Clive won a world cup. That's worth at least a 10% bump on his average 🤣

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                                  Eddie used a crazy number of players in his tenure and capped more than any other England coach (47 debutants up to 2021) and also burned through 18 assistant coaches -
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                                    @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Confirmed. Sacked.

                                    https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

                                    Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.

                                    I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.

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                                    @stodders said in NH International Rugby:

                                    @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Confirmed. Sacked.

                                    https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/rfu-statement-on-eddie-jones

                                    Not really a surprise. Jones' style is good for one world cup cycle. After that, players and coaches are fatigued by him.

                                    I recall telling my English mates that Eddie would crash and burn after 1 World Cup and leave them in a complete mess as this seemed to be his preferred MO.

                                    I really hope Sir Clive comes back in and bombs hard (sorry @Catogrande), if for no other reason than it will mean we never see his smug face on TV again.

                                    England should just aim for he RC semis and start talking to Farrell now about taking over after that.

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                                      For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

                                      The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

                                      He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

                                        The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

                                        He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

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                                        Victor Meldrew
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                                        @MajorRage said in NH International Rugby:

                                        For all the negatives being written about Eddie, one thing must always be respected.

                                        The English rugby media absolutely hated him.

                                        He deserves credit for at no point towing the line to that complete bunch of piston wristed gibbons.

                                        While I take your point, I recall the piston wristed gibbons who pose as rugby journalists praised him to the skies when he was winning and thought him a rugby genius.

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                                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                          Eddie used a crazy number of players in his tenure and capped more than any other England coach (47 debutants up to 2021) and also burned through 18 assistant coaches -
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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:

                                          Eddie used a crazy number of players in his tenure and capped more than any other England coach (47 debutants up to 2021) and also burned through 18 assistant coaches -
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                                          The exit of Wisemantel, Borthwick and Mitchell as why performance fell off a cliff.

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