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FIFA World Cup 2022

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    For all the talk about soccer being more competitive than rugby, we have 8 winners

    Uruguay
    Italy
    West Germany/Germany
    Brazil
    France
    Spain
    England
    Argentina

    Don't see that changing this tournament either. Would be stunned if winner was Morocco, Switzerland, Croatia, Netherlands or Portugal.

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    @Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

    For all the talk about soccer being more competitive than rugby, we have 8 winners

    Uruguay
    Italy
    West Germany/Germany
    Brazil
    France
    Spain
    England
    Argentina

    Don't see that changing this tournament either. Would be stunned if winner was Morocco, Switzerland, Croatia, Netherlands or Portugal.

    Of those, only France and Spain have broken into the club in the last 30 years? IIRC

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      For all the talk about soccer being more competitive than rugby, we have 8 winners

      Uruguay
      Italy
      West Germany/Germany
      Brazil
      France
      Spain
      England
      Argentina

      Don't see that changing this tournament either. Would be stunned if winner was Morocco, Switzerland, Croatia, Netherlands or Portugal.

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      @Billy-Tell compared with rugby's four...

      Add to that four France, Argies Ireland, Wales, Scotland and you have nine teams have made RWC semis

      16 teams have made the FIFA WC semi's but have yet to win it. Six of them (Netherlands, Croatia, Portugal, South Korea, Turkey) in the last 20 years

      As you would expect from the global game, football is way more competitive

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        @Billy-Tell compared with rugby's four...

        Add to that four France, Argies Ireland, Wales, Scotland and you have nine teams have made RWC semis

        16 teams have made the FIFA WC semi's but have yet to win it. Six of them (Netherlands, Croatia, Portugal, South Korea, Turkey) in the last 20 years

        As you would expect from the global game, football is way more competitive

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        @dogmeat Ireland ain't ever made no semi

        Quarters and out is their tradition

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @dogmeat Ireland ain't ever made no semi

          Quarters and out is their tradition

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          @mariner4life oops

          It was almost even worse. It was only at the last second I remembered France.....

          Now ask me about the 1967 EOYT and I'm fine

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            Would have thought, on paper, Portugal were a fair chance to break in as a new champion.

            I haven't watched them (or almost any) beyond the highlights, so not a comment based on form, or eye test.

            They have a fair smattering of players playing for European club giants (plus Wolverhampton .... )
            Plus have recent pedigree in the Euros (and Nations League), even if they then interpose that with underperforming or averagperfroming in the world cups.

            Apart from Ronaldo, they are not a generation on the decline.

            Only missing Jota.

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            • RapidoR Rapido

              Would have thought, on paper, Portugal were a fair chance to break in as a new champion.

              I haven't watched them (or almost any) beyond the highlights, so not a comment based on form, or eye test.

              They have a fair smattering of players playing for European club giants (plus Wolverhampton .... )
              Plus have recent pedigree in the Euros (and Nations League), even if they then interpose that with underperforming or averagperfroming in the world cups.

              Apart from Ronaldo, they are not a generation on the decline.

              Only missing Jota.

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              @Rapido said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

              Would have thought, on paper, Portugal were a fair chance to break in as a new champion.

              I haven't watched them (or almost any) beyond the highlights, so not a comment based on form, or eye test.

              They have a fair smattering of players playing for European club giants (plus Wolverhampton .... )
              Plus have recent pedigree in the Euros (and Nations League), even if they then interpose that with underperforming or averagperfroming in the world cups.

              Apart from Ronaldo, they are not a generation on the decline.

              Only missing Jota.

              Other that Ruben dias there defence and goalie is shocking tho... so may struggle to go far in the big shinding

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              • bayimportsB Do not disturb
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                The Dutch have had some good teams through the years that have never kicked on.. likewise I don't expect to this time either, but surprised they never cracked it.

                France looking like team to beat for me though

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                • bayimportsB bayimports

                  The Dutch have had some good teams through the years that have never kicked on.. likewise I don't expect to this time either, but surprised they never cracked it.

                  France looking like team to beat for me though

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                  @bayimports said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                  The Dutch have had some good teams through the years that have never kicked on.. likewise I don't expect to this time either, but surprised they never cracked it.

                  France looking like team to beat for me though

                  The Dutch are the football equivalents of French rugby.

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                    This Dutch team is noticeably lacking in flair and pretty pragmatic based around a back 5 with van Dijk at the centre of it. Expect them to sit back and let the Argies have the ball and look to hit them on the break down the flanks.

                    England v France is a fascinating match-up and it's really hard to know how it will go - much depends on whether Southgate goes toe to toe and picks a 4-3-3 or he reverts back to cautious and 5 at the back to try to stifle the threat on the French flanks.

                    Brazil should cruise past Croatia - should as I would expect Croatia to sit deep, soak up pressure and look to score from a set piece.

                    For tomorrow's games, Morocco are well fancied to upset Spain and have the game to do it. Portugal always seem to be less than the sum of their parts and the Swiss are pretty canny. It screams extra time.

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                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                      This Dutch team is noticeably lacking in flair and pretty pragmatic based around a back 5 with van Dijk at the centre of it. Expect them to sit back and let the Argies have the ball and look to hit them on the break down the flanks.

                      England v France is a fascinating match-up and it's really hard to know how it will go - much depends on whether Southgate goes toe to toe and picks a 4-3-3 or he reverts back to cautious and 5 at the back to try to stifle the threat on the French flanks.

                      Brazil should cruise past Croatia - should as I would expect Croatia to sit deep, soak up pressure and look to score from a set piece.

                      For tomorrow's games, Morocco are well fancied to upset Spain and have the game to do it. Portugal always seem to be less than the sum of their parts and the Swiss are pretty canny. It screams extra time.

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                      @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      This Dutch team is noticeably lacking in flair and pretty pragmatic based around a back 5 with van Dijk at the centre of it. Expect them to sit back and let the Argies have the ball and look to hit them on the break down the flanks.

                      England v France is a fascinating match-up and it's really hard to know how it will go - much depends on whether Southgate goes toe to toe and picks a 4-3-3 or he reverts back to cautious and 5 at the back to try to stifle the threat on the French flanks.

                      Brazil should cruise past Croatia - should as I would expect Croatia to sit deep, soak up pressure and look to score from a set piece.

                      For tomorrow's games, Morocco are well fancied to upset Spain and have the game to do it. Portugal always seem to be less than the sum of their parts and the Swiss are pretty canny. It screams extra time.

                      Spain v Portugal QF for me

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        This Dutch team is noticeably lacking in flair and pretty pragmatic based around a back 5 with van Dijk at the centre of it. Expect them to sit back and let the Argies have the ball and look to hit them on the break down the flanks.

                        England v France is a fascinating match-up and it's really hard to know how it will go - much depends on whether Southgate goes toe to toe and picks a 4-3-3 or he reverts back to cautious and 5 at the back to try to stifle the threat on the French flanks.

                        Brazil should cruise past Croatia - should as I would expect Croatia to sit deep, soak up pressure and look to score from a set piece.

                        For tomorrow's games, Morocco are well fancied to upset Spain and have the game to do it. Portugal always seem to be less than the sum of their parts and the Swiss are pretty canny. It screams extra time.

                        Spain v Portugal QF for me

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                        @MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        @KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        This Dutch team is noticeably lacking in flair and pretty pragmatic based around a back 5 with van Dijk at the centre of it. Expect them to sit back and let the Argies have the ball and look to hit them on the break down the flanks.

                        England v France is a fascinating match-up and it's really hard to know how it will go - much depends on whether Southgate goes toe to toe and picks a 4-3-3 or he reverts back to cautious and 5 at the back to try to stifle the threat on the French flanks.

                        Brazil should cruise past Croatia - should as I would expect Croatia to sit deep, soak up pressure and look to score from a set piece.

                        For tomorrow's games, Morocco are well fancied to upset Spain and have the game to do it. Portugal always seem to be less than the sum of their parts and the Swiss are pretty canny. It screams extra time.

                        Spain v Portugal QF for me

                        That didn't age well

                        Well done Morocco

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                          If Switzerland can win we will have Morocco to make semi finals.

                          What an amazing display by Morocco.

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                            With Bono as keeper Morocco had the edge.

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                              I didn't see the game but there were predictions that Morocco could upset. I'll have to watch the penalty shootout.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I didn't see the game but there were predictions that Morocco could upset. I'll have to watch the penalty shootout.

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                                @Bovidae said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                I didn't see the game but there were predictions that Morocco could upset. I'll have to watch the penalty shootout.

                                Morocco missed some absolutely golden opportunities in extra time then Spain hit the post with time up.

                                But I can never understand how such well paid players can be so average at penalties.

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                                  Good and brave call by the coach of Portugal. Without Ronaldo's inflated ego and old legs, they have a better chance of winning.

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                                    This isn’t going to extra time

                                    What a goal

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                                    • broughieB broughie

                                      Good and brave call by the coach of Portugal. Without Ronaldo's inflated ego and old legs, they have a better chance of winning.

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                                      @****************** ******************broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      Good and brave call by the coach of Portugal. Without Ronaldo's inflated ego and old legs, they have a better chance of winning.

                                      Ronaldo needs the nickname the Aussie Cricket Team used to give Kevin Pietersen: FIGJAM

                                      F### I'm Good, Just Ask Me.

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        Good and brave call by the coach of Portugal. Without Ronaldo's inflated ego and old legs, they have a better chance of winning.

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                                        @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                        Good and brave call by the coach of Portugal. Without Ronaldo's inflated ego and old legs, they have a better chance of winning.

                                        I would just cut him from the team. You can only tolerate an ego if the player is indispensable which is no longer the case

                                        Schär is having a mare on defence.

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                                          This will require a comeback of vs FRA euros proportions. Portugal look way better.

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