FIFA World Cup 2022
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@Crucial said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@KiwiPie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@duke said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@KiwiPie
You’re dreaming. That’s the kind of thing that turns people off soccer. He was barely touched.Really? You've not watched much of the game then have you? Every professional would have gone down at that point from any nation. Lord Harry Kane is a master of it.
Just because they would all do it doesn't mean that it doesn't turn people off the game. Sport shouldn't be about play acting.
I used to hold this view too. But as KiwiPie states above, it was a clear penalty and those that follow the game a lot understand why.
The thing is, that there is diving and then there is diving. Just because you didn't necessarily get physically taken out, it doesn't mean that it's not a penalty. In a lot of situations, the player will avoid the contact and go down to prove the point. If a leg is just thrown out there, and your direct path is blocked by it (and especially when in the box), your choices are either
- Run in the leg, risk injury, go down and likely get the penalty
- Avoid the leg, go down & likely get the penalty
- Take a less direct route the ball which means you may lose a sec or so & then continue on at a disadvantage of what you should have been.
This certainly doesn't apply in all situations, but there has been a few where people call diving when ithe player has taken option 2. There are genuine bullshitting divers out there, don't get me wrong. But the above happens a lot.
Side note on the Saka situation yesterday. the VAR check was right, as it wasn't a penalty. However, how the fuck the ref didn't call the foul initially (and therefore a free kick to England just outside the box), I'll never know. It was about as a blatant of a foul as you'll see.
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Daniele Orsato is the ref for the Argentina-Croatia game. He has been good in the games I've seen him officiate. Reading some of the stories about the behaviour of the Argentinean players towards the Dutch after the penalty shootout I hope Croatia wins. The Argies need to win in normal time otherwise their fate is sealed.
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@Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
Don’t think that was a penalty. No wonder people get turned off soccer.
The one Kane slotted into the net? That's a clear cut example of what a penalty should be: Defender misses the ball and takes out the attacked inside the box.
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@antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
Don’t think that was a penalty. No wonder people get turned off soccer.
The one Kane slotted into the net? That's a clear cut example of what a penalty should be: Defender misses the ball and takes out the attacked inside the box.
You need to have followed the Argentina vs Holland match comments. This was a firmly tongue in cheek comment
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@dogmeat England match? Absolutely bizarre to blame the ref when England got given every chance to win as well as kicking a goal Wilkinson would have been proud of.
I was just amused how far out of reality Neville is. It definitely helps paint a picture in other areas....
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@Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
Does anyone else think it's ironic that Harry Kane saved English fans from the pain of exiting the WC in a penalty shootout by missing a penalty??
Took one for the team.
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@Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Crucial One of those sport is cruel moments - felt genuinely sorry for the guy.
Sums up English football beautifully, I doubt there's a better team in the world at not taking their opportunities than their national team.
Rubbed off on their Women's Rugby Team as well.
Still amazes me that we lost to them in that CWC final. Very un-English.
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@Crucial said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Crucial One of those sport is cruel moments - felt genuinely sorry for the guy.
Sums up English football beautifully, I doubt there's a better team in the world at not taking their opportunities than their national team.
Rubbed off on their Women's Rugby Team as well.
Still amazes me that we lost to them in that CWC final. Very un-English.
That ricochet that went for a boundary, and the umpire error to give them an extra run will haunt Guptill and cricket fans for a long time
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@dogmeat said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
The truly awful reffing performance was that clown who nominally took charge of the Argie Dutchie game. He was fucking awful
Mateu Lahoz has been sent home from Qatar according to the Spanish media.
15 yellow cards must be a record for one game.
@Bones Neville is a muppet. Best to ignore most ex-players.
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@Windows97 said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Crucial One of those sport is cruel moments - felt genuinely sorry for the guy.
Sums up English football beautifully, I doubt there's a better team in the world at not taking their opportunities than their national team.
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@Bones said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@dogmeat England match? Absolutely bizarre to blame the ref when England got given every chance to win as well as kicking a goal Wilkinson would have been proud of.
I was just amused how far out of reality Neville is. It definitely helps paint a picture in other areas....
He's the most reputable football pundit in England, which says a lot of course...
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@junior said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Bones said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@dogmeat England match? Absolutely bizarre to blame the ref when England got given every chance to win as well as kicking a goal Wilkinson would have been proud of.
I was just amused how far out of reality Neville is. It definitely helps paint a picture in other areas....
He's the most reputable football pundit in England, which says a lot of course...
Where on earth did you pull that one from ....
He's got a lot to say and get some good gigs, but I think you'll find most people would put a lot of people ahead of him. Souness, Keane to name a couple.
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@MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@junior said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Bones said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@dogmeat England match? Absolutely bizarre to blame the ref when England got given every chance to win as well as kicking a goal Wilkinson would have been proud of.
I was just amused how far out of reality Neville is. It definitely helps paint a picture in other areas....
He's the most reputable football pundit in England, which says a lot of course...
Where on earth did you pull that one from ....
He's got a lot to say and get some good gigs, but I think you'll find most people would put a lot of people ahead of him. Souness, Keane to name a couple.
I'd be tempted to throw Poogash in that list even.
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@Bones said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@MajorRage said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@junior said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@Bones said in FIFA World Cup 2022:
@dogmeat England match? Absolutely bizarre to blame the ref when England got given every chance to win as well as kicking a goal Wilkinson would have been proud of.
I was just amused how far out of reality Neville is. It definitely helps paint a picture in other areas....
He's the most reputable football pundit in England, which says a lot of course...
Where on earth did you pull that one from ....
He's got a lot to say and get some good gigs, but I think you'll find most people would put a lot of people ahead of him. Souness, Keane to name a couple.
I'd be tempted to throw Poogash in that list even.
I have no idea who that is .... but I'd certainly put Neville in with Carragher as the worst. They aren't necessarily bad pundits, but their views are blinded by their club allegiances.
Micah Richards, Alex Scott are both better than those two as well.
Keane is my favourite though. A true curmudgeon, just like me.
