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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    To Ryan's credit, he spoke to Barnes about Sowakula's NPC form prior to naming the AB XV squad.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300756981/coach-backs-pita-gus-sowakula-to-reignite-all-blacks-career-ahead-of-world-cup

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        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

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          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-who-are-on-the-world-cup-selection-bubble-after-2022/

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          • BonesB Bones

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

            No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

              No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

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              @canefan yeah I can kinda see how something like what Aus do might work, and having it set at say 80 caps and only if you didn't take a sabbatical - but then I think what we have now has generally worked in the past anyway.

              Only player I can really think of right now that's worth it would be Smith, but then that's purely due to the gap behind him, which would be bridged in a year or two anyway.

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                #4673

                Fuck off beauden. Go now champ.

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                • NepiaN Offline
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                  #4674

                  Huh, does he really think he'll still be an AB when the Cantablacks are back in 2024? 😉

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                    No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                    No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                    Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                      No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                      Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

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                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                      No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                      Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

                      I agree

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                      • BovidaeB Offline
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                        #4677

                        BB would be one of the highest paid ABs, but I guess you can never have enough money...

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                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                          #4678

                          I have no issue if he was playing for the Reds/Tahs/Drua or whoever in same comp (or a Saffa team when they were part of it) I def think that needs relaxing, but otherwise nope.

                          Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                          No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                          Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

                          No need to argue

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            I have no issue if he was playing for the Reds/Tahs/Drua or whoever in same comp (or a Saffa team when they were part of it) I def think that needs relaxing, but otherwise nope.

                            Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                            No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                            Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

                            No need to argue

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                            I would call it a request rather than a demand. No harm is asking. I'm sure it will get turned down and I suspect Barrett knows that too

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                              I would call it a request rather than a demand. No harm is asking. I'm sure it will get turned down and I suspect Barrett knows that too

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                              @Duluth is a request now, but he could probably have made it a demand a few years back 😉

                              Dudes already had a sabbatical hasnt he?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                I have no issue if he was playing for the Reds/Tahs/Drua or whoever in same comp (or a Saffa team when they were part of it) I def think that needs relaxing, but otherwise nope.

                                Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                                No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                                Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

                                No need to argue

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                I have no issue if he was playing for the Reds/Tahs/Drua or whoever in same comp (or a Saffa team when they were part of it) I def think that needs relaxing, but otherwise nope.

                                Maybe 2 or 3 years ago he may have had an argument to make demands like that, but now in his twilight and indifferent form, yeah nah.

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/guys-are-going-to-bugger-off-why-the-all-blacks-cant-pick-overseas-players/

                                No one is bigger than the jersey. BB will almost certainly make the RWC23 team, then he should go abroad and enjoy his semi-retirement

                                Lol you could argue Beauden is already well past his best.

                                No need to argue

                                yeah, i dont care if some of our players got and play in aus, still get to watch them etc and better than loosing them completely

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-who-are-on-the-world-cup-selection-bubble-after-2022/

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-who-are-on-the-world-cup-selection-bubble-after-2022/

                                  Some of those bolters are pretty weird picks. Even though Segner is one of my Ta$man boys, I doubt he's currently in the top 15 loose forwards in the country.

                                  I'd have Moody in and Taávao out - Ofa as a tighthead.

                                  Coles in Aumua out.

                                  If Scott Barrett is going to play 6 then only one - at most - of Frizell and AIoane will make it. I reckon Blackadder has a good shot.

                                  Midfield - well, they have to decide where they're going to play Jordie, because it would be ridiculous to pick him as a fullback (as this article does) if he's the first choice second five (and that's where we are right now). So QT drops out or my team and a space opens up at the back.

                                  I have Dmac over Steve Perofeta and then there's a fight between Sevu's versatility vs Telea's displacement of him with one space remaining available depending on all the utility options.

                                  .

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                                    Not a Fan of the Barrett request at all not just because it is BB but if anyone asked no,Beaver is right imo it would stuff SR and NPC totally.

                                    Our competitions would be come 3rd rate and just be a feeder to Europe and Japan.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-who-are-on-the-world-cup-selection-bubble-after-2022/

                                      Some of those bolters are pretty weird picks. Even though Segner is one of my Ta$man boys, I doubt he's currently in the top 15 loose forwards in the country.

                                      I'd have Moody in and Taávao out - Ofa as a tighthead.

                                      Coles in Aumua out.

                                      If Scott Barrett is going to play 6 then only one - at most - of Frizell and AIoane will make it. I reckon Blackadder has a good shot.

                                      Midfield - well, they have to decide where they're going to play Jordie, because it would be ridiculous to pick him as a fullback (as this article does) if he's the first choice second five (and that's where we are right now). So QT drops out or my team and a space opens up at the back.

                                      I have Dmac over Steve Perofeta and then there's a fight between Sevu's versatility vs Telea's displacement of him with one space remaining available depending on all the utility options.

                                      .

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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-all-blacks-who-are-on-the-world-cup-selection-bubble-after-2022/

                                      Some of those bolters are pretty weird picks. Even though Segner is one of my Ta$man boys, I doubt he's currently in the top 15 loose forwards in the country.

                                      I'd have Moody in and Taávao out - Ofa as a tighthead.

                                      Coles in Aumua out.

                                      If Scott Barrett is going to play 6 then only one - at most - of Frizell and AIoane will make it. I reckon Blackadder has a good shot.

                                      Midfield - well, they have to decide where they're going to play Jordie, because it would be ridiculous to pick him as a fullback (as this article does) if he's the first choice second five (and that's where we are right now). So QT drops out or my team and a space opens up at the back.

                                      I have Dmac over Steve Perofeta and then there's a fight between Sevu's versatility vs Telea's displacement of him with one space remaining available depending on all the utility options.

                                      .

                                      I'd take Aumua over Coles now, he was dynamite in the NPC and his throwing was superb throughout the finals. I guess that selection will come down to who plays better for the Canes in 2023. I expect Aumua will start most games.

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                                        I'm not sure you can trust Coles to remain fit, and at 36 that becomes increasingly less likely. We are looking for the 3rd hooker so better to select Aumua as there can be continuity post-RWC.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          I'm not sure you can trust Coles to remain fit, and at 36 that becomes increasingly less likely. We are looking for the 3rd hooker so better to select Aumua as there can be continuity post-RWC.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          I'm not sure you can trust Coles to remain fit, and at 36 that becomes increasingly less likely. We are looking for the 3rd hooker so better to select Aumua as there can be continuity post-RWC.

                                          If Coles remains fit he's a better hooker so I wouldn't select Aumua with an eye to the future. If Coles breaks then just bring Aumua in (who would likely have trained with the squad anyway). Same as if Taylor reverts to his last two years minus EOYT form ... actually who am I kidding, Taylor is a protected species.

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