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  • Dan54D Dan54

    @muddyriver said in Exodus:

    @Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.

    Only unorganised rubbish for you maybe muddy, but very important to development of our younger players etc. I know the Naki development (B) team plays through to Oct, same as U20s etc, who have quite a good set comp, first in Chiefs area , then qualifiers play winners from other super areas.

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    @Dan54 Yep, in the Hurricanes region also a lot of work has been/is being done in that respect, although - thus far - it has resulted in a better programme for the Wellington teams (due to their much bigger numbers and - probably - closer proximity) than for the other provinces in the region, but as @taniwharugby says, if they continue to work on the programme for both age grade and dev teams, it has the potential of being something really good. It's definitely not "unorganized rubbish".

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @Dan54 Yep, in the Hurricanes region also a lot of work has been/is being done in that respect, although - thus far - it has resulted in a better programme for the Wellington teams (due to their much bigger numbers and - probably - closer proximity) than for the other provinces in the region, but as @taniwharugby says, if they continue to work on the programme for both age grade and dev teams, it has the potential of being something really good. It's definitely not "unorganized rubbish".

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      @Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.

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        @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

        @Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.

        The same really in the Crusaders region it has been ok and worked well for the Crusaders.
        But there is a real effort to grow it in the region to be even more meaningful.

        The Crusaders academy has been running for quite while now and now there are decent structures underneath 70% of new players for the Crusaders come straight out of the Academy every season.
        They flow straight in to the academy from all-round the country the Crusaders have had a extremely good scouting group watching school rugby for a while now.
        And we are starting to see that at all the SR franchises.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

          @Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.

          The same really in the Crusaders region it has been ok and worked well for the Crusaders.
          But there is a real effort to grow it in the region to be even more meaningful.

          The Crusaders academy has been running for quite while now and now there are decent structures underneath 70% of new players for the Crusaders come straight out of the Academy every season.
          They flow straight in to the academy from all-round the country the Crusaders have had a extremely good scouting group watching school rugby for a while now.
          And we are starting to see that at all the SR franchises.

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          @Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.

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            @Dan54 said in Exodus:

            @Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.

            Yep Campbell Parata

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Dan54 said in Exodus:

              @Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.

              Yep Campbell Parata

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              @Chris said in Exodus:

              @Dan54 said in Exodus:

              @Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.

              Yep Campbell Parata

              Yep, and you know when I replied I couldn't remember his name-------bloody old age huh!

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                Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.

                https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.

                  https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746

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                  @Stargazer Who?

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                    #1922

                    I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.

                    Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
                    This announcement is from October.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.

                      https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746

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                      @Stargazer Plays for Auckland University club. Supposed to be one of the better props around. He's played for the NZ Universities team, and Auckland B.

                      May have been in an NZ Secondary Schools squad.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Stargazer Plays for Auckland University club. Supposed to be one of the better props around. He's played for the NZ Universities team, and Auckland B.

                        May have been in an NZ Secondary Schools squad.

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                        @Tim Thanks. I knew there would be someone on the Fern who had heard of him!

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.

                          Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
                          This announcement is from October.

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                          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                          I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.

                          Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
                          This announcement is from October.

                          Is that his dad's jersey?

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                            @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                            I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.

                            Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
                            This announcement is from October.

                            Is that his dad's jersey?

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                            @Machpants Haha, a bit big isn't it? Maybe they thought they'd signed a 2.5m tall lock! :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                              https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1607200897469411330?t=DHp1SLjEip85sZtJugWq8w&s=19

                              Need a new 10 in '24

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                                Media release Crusaders:

                                https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/richie-mounga-to-depart-crusaders-after-2023/

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                                  Richie Mo'unga isn't the only one leaving for Toshiba Brave Lupus after the RWC:

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Richie Mo'unga isn't the only one leaving for Toshiba Brave Lupus after the RWC:

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                                    @Stargazer glad to see the back of Frizell. Mo'unga will be a huge loss to the Crusaders and All Blacks.

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                                      RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                                      Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                                      With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

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                                        RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                                        Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                                        With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

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                                        @Chris Yes, sadly, the announcements of the departures of PGS, Mo'unga and Frizell is only the start of probably a huge exodus post-RWC. I expect a much greater number of players to retire or leave for greener pastures after the 2023 RWC than we saw after the 2019 RWC. While a rejuvenation of the ABs and SR squads isn't necessarily a bad thing, it also means the loss of a huge amount of experience and rugby IQ on the two highest levels in NZ. We can only hope that the next generation is ready and good enough.

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                                          I'm happy to chip in to expedite Frizzel's contract to next year. Who's with me?

                                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                                          RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                                          Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                                          With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

                                          Those ones are expected turnover so not all that concerning (all getting close to mid 30s) - well aside from RTS. But he should probably go now to get another year in with the Dolphins.

                                          Although, I wonder if BBBR might carry on due to his frequent injury interruptions?

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