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  • M Machpants

    @Chris said in Exodus:

    RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
    *Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
    With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

    RTS should not be amongst those players, he's (like all short term League purchases) a waste of time and money for ABs

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    #1938

    @Machpants said in Exodus:

    @Chris said in Exodus:

    RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
    *Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
    With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

    RTS should not be amongst those players, he's (like all short term League purchases) a waste of time and money for ABs

    Yep, a few on here predicated all sorts of wonderful things for RTS on the Rugby Union field.

    It’s a bit of an insult to the legacy of the others to post his name alongside those guys.

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      RTS played well in SR and had a couple of promising games on the EOYT. He exceeded my expectations after missing out on an NPC last year.

      I doubt he leaves Auckland again. Maybe he goes back to the Warriors but I would not be surprised to see him extend his Blues/NZR contract. Depends on how 2023 goes

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        RTS has done just fine. Considering he missed a bit of time with injury and the lack of a development plan for him / or a decent plan. He definitely belongs in SR, wait and see for the next level.

        At what point do the ABs have their hand forced to open it up worldwide? They can only lose so much talent before they have to follow suit like the Boks and Wallabies.

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @margin_walker said in Exodus:

          Anyone know anything about Chandler Cunningham-South? Back row, played a bit of North Harbour and Canterbury age grade apparently. Signed an academy contract with London Irish a few weeks ago.

          He's straight into the England U20s team (at 6) for their 6N game against Wales tomorrow.

          Not really but he was in the Canterbury Under 19s last season out of Lincoln University RFC
          https://www.canterburyrugby.co.nz/newsarticle/106283?newsfeedId=1043163
          and think he might have originated from Hamilton BHS (a bit of a longshot on this). With a name like he has got it sort of indicates he must have at least one pommie parent/grandparent for him to walk into the RFUs Under 20s.

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          @Higgins said in Exodus:

          @margin_walker said in Exodus:

          Anyone know anything about Chandler Cunningham-South? Back row, played a bit of North Harbour and Canterbury age grade apparently. Signed an academy contract with London Irish a few weeks ago.

          He's straight into the England U20s team (at 6) for their 6N game against Wales tomorrow.

          Not really but he was in the Canterbury Under 19s last season out of Lincoln University RFC
          https://www.canterburyrugby.co.nz/newsarticle/106283?newsfeedId=1043163
          and think he might have originated from Hamilton BHS (a bit of a longshot on this). With a name like he has got it sort of indicates he must have at least one pommie parent/grandparent for him to walk into the RFUs Under 20s.

          He's making an impression. Has been getting plenty of Prem and Champions Cup gametime off the bench. Got on the end of a try here to clinch a big win against Saracens a few days ago. Still just 19, so expect to see a fair bit more of him in future

          https://twitter.com/btsportrugby/status/1606408123522195467

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          • ChrisC Chris

            RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
            Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
            With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

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            TJ
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            @Chris said in Exodus:

            RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
            Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
            With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

            I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
            For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

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            • T TJ

              @Chris said in Exodus:

              RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
              Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
              With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

              I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
              For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

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              @TJ Really presents a great opportunity for our youth to step up in the next Super rugby season. Although there was no Under 20s World Cup this year, we had a pretty descent crop coming out in the Oceana tournament as well as Hamilton B.H.S securing the world school tournament and the successful Under 19 tour of South Africa. At least this year's NPC wasn't disrupted by Covert like last year.

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              • T TJ

                @Chris said in Exodus:

                RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

                I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
                For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

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                @TJ said in Exodus:

                @Chris said in Exodus:

                RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

                I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
                For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

                Yeah Cane has signed through to 2025, He may struggle to hold down an AB spot by the time 2024 comes around.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @TJ said in Exodus:

                  @Chris said in Exodus:

                  RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                  Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                  With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

                  I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
                  For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

                  Yeah Cane has signed through to 2025, He may struggle to hold down an AB spot by the time 2024 comes around.

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                  @Chris said in Exodus:

                  @TJ said in Exodus:

                  @Chris said in Exodus:

                  RM and Frizell will probably be followed by a few more after the WC.
                  Beauden Barrett,Brodie Retallick,Sam Whitelock,RTS and Sam Cane leading the way.Maybe D Mac as well,
                  With sabbaticals for Ardie Savea and Reiko Ioane.

                  I think Cane is signed till 2025. Barrett and Whitelock don't have long left at the top and RTS isn't regularly in the match day squad. I'm still pretty confident D Mac will sign on with a crack at being number 1 10.
                  For me it's a shame to lose Mounga, Frizell and Retallick but not significantly worse than other post-WC years.

                  Yeah Cane has signed through to 2025, He may struggle to hold down an AB spot by the time 2024 comes around.

                  Agree, I think the same of Taylor, but great for NZ rugby to have players of their experience around for a bit longer.

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                    #1946

                    Auckland prop Charles (Charlie) Abel has signed with Chicago Hounds in the MLR.

                    https://www.chicagohounds.com/news/hounds-agree-to-terms-with-pair-of-forwards/

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Auckland prop Charles (Charlie) Abel has signed with Chicago Hounds in the MLR.

                      https://www.chicagohounds.com/news/hounds-agree-to-terms-with-pair-of-forwards/

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                      #1947

                      @Stargazer Can't recall Charlie Abel so a bit of a dig around found the following. A total of two appearances off the bench for Auckland as an injury replacement to the squad in 2022 against the powerhouses of Manawatu and Southland plus one solitary appearance in Super Rugby for what appears to be the Melbourne Rebels.

                      https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/player/appearanceList.php?playerId=5197

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                        mikey07
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                        #1948

                        3 more departures to the Houston Sable Cats
                        Speed and power added to the backs! We are excited to add: Fullback Drew Wild and Wing Vereniki Tikoisolomone.

                        Vereniki Tikoisolomone, 24, has represented the NZ Barbarians as well as playing for the Taranakin Bulls in NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby

                        Wild, 22, joins the ‘Cats after spending the last few years playing for Manawatu in the NPC. He had 10 starts in 2022 and scored three tries.

                        Let’s GO 🤘

                        #MLR2023 #BigCatEnergy #HoustonSaberCats

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                        • M mikey07

                          3 more departures to the Houston Sable Cats
                          Speed and power added to the backs! We are excited to add: Fullback Drew Wild and Wing Vereniki Tikoisolomone.

                          Vereniki Tikoisolomone, 24, has represented the NZ Barbarians as well as playing for the Taranakin Bulls in NPC and the Highlanders in Super Rugby

                          Wild, 22, joins the ‘Cats after spending the last few years playing for Manawatu in the NPC. He had 10 starts in 2022 and scored three tries.

                          Let’s GO 🤘

                          #MLR2023 #BigCatEnergy #HoustonSaberCats

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                          Stargazer
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                          @mikey07

                          In addition to Manawatū fullback Drew Wild and Taranaki wing Vereniki Tikoisolomone, also signed with the Houston Sabercats are props Morgan Mitchell (Southland), Rob Cobb (Waikato) and Fatongia Paea (North Harbour).

                          https://twitter.com/Hou_Sabercats/status/1611437188138340355

                          https://www.houstonsabercats.com/news/sabercats-sign-3-props/

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                            Former Harbour centre Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u (Marino's twin brother) has signed with Japanese club Kurita Watergush Akishima.

                            https://www.kurita-watergush.jp/news20221206/

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                              Jack Heighton has re-signed with Rugby New York:

                              https://twitter.com/rugbynewyork/status/1611462466218905606

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                                Nothing more than a rumour at this stage, but according to l'Equipe, Brad Weber will join Stade Français after the RWC.

                                https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Le-all-black-brad-weber-attendu-au-stade-francais-apres-la-coupe-du-monde/1372780

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                                  Nothing more than a rumour at this stage, but according to l'Equipe, Brad Weber will join Stade Français after the RWC.

                                  https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Le-all-black-brad-weber-attendu-au-stade-francais-apres-la-coupe-du-monde/1372780

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                                  Dan54
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                                  @Stargazer Yep not a surprise at 31 unfortunately, time to cash in I guess,

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                                    #1954

                                    Also interesting (although not strictly NZ) according to Christie Doran (usually fairly correct) , Dave Rennie off to Japan to coach Kobe Steelers after WC. He seems to of made statement lat year he was getting his future sorted out by early this year.
                                    (lol as an aside of course like in NZ it starts all the incompetetence of RA etc etc comments)
                                    I actually think if true that perhaps some coaches are more suited to Super'League One etc standard of rugby than test rugby ie Robbie Deans?)

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                                      Also interesting (although not strictly NZ) according to Christie Doran (usually fairly correct) , Dave Rennie off to Japan to coach Kobe Steelers after WC. He seems to of made statement lat year he was getting his future sorted out by early this year.
                                      (lol as an aside of course like in NZ it starts all the incompetetence of RA etc etc comments)
                                      I actually think if true that perhaps some coaches are more suited to Super'League One etc standard of rugby than test rugby ie Robbie Deans?)

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                                      muddyriver
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                                      @Dan54 imo deans international record is decent. Japan league is hard to guage as the clubs have very differing levels of professionalism amongst the locals.

                                      He consistently took nz on at their peak and the wallabies were very competitive.

                                      Aussie just simply doesn't have a lot of depth, they punch above their weight due to great weather developing good backs and alot of pacific genetics.

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                                        @Dan54 imo deans international record is decent. Japan league is hard to guage as the clubs have very differing levels of professionalism amongst the locals.

                                        He consistently took nz on at their peak and the wallabies were very competitive.

                                        Aussie just simply doesn't have a lot of depth, they punch above their weight due to great weather developing good backs and alot of pacific genetics.

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                                        Dan54
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                                        #1956

                                        @muddyriver fair enough just my thoughts , I was in Aus when they took him on and expressed same opinion before he started, he bloody good coach at super level, but even up until then had not very good reviews with his time with ABs as assistant coach. Even Dan Carter always said he seemed to struggle with players who weren't learners, ie has experience etc, and he was reasonably matey with Deans. I know I heard a few players speak of it, he struggled to communicate etc, and didn't like players having opinions maybe.

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                                          Finally, the official announcement of Kianu Kereru-Symes joining NE Free Jacks.

                                          https://twitter.com/NEFreeJacks/status/1612572496204816384

                                          https://freejacks.com/featured-news/free-jacks-sign-hawkes-bay-hooker-kianu-kereru-symes/

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