NZ v Pakistan 2022/23
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@MN5 The Hastings / Collinge partnership was what got me into test cricket
We were 151 runs behind on the first innings when the partnership began and had just lost 7-40 odd.
We were looking down the barrel of a big deficit and probable loss, but I wasn't that interested. Every time I walked past the TV though they were still there. First Collinge got a PB then they started talking of 100 partnership, then all sorts of records were discussed highest by a number 11 and could it be - highest partnership for 11th wicket. The commentators were going on about Queen Victoria was on the throne when the existing record was established.
I became transfixed and watched over after over. In the end Colling did get the individual record and with Hastings smashed the old record. Was really disappointed when it was finally beaten a few years ago.
They managed to get us even on the first innings. NZ didn't have a bad side, but it was really a nothing test apart from Rodney Redmond's century and half century on debut and never playing another test.
But for me it was the start of a love affair with Test cricket that is now 50 years old - or will be next month
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@dogmeat said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 The Hastings / Collinge partnership was what got me into test cricket
We were 151 runs behind on the first innings when the partnership began and had just lost 7-40 odd.
We were looking down the barrel of a big deficit and probable loss, but I wasn't that interested. Every time I walked past the TV though they were still there. First Collinge got a PB then they started talking of 100 partnership, then all sorts of records were discussed highest by a number 11 and could it be - highest partnership for 11th wicket. The commentators were going on about Queen Victoria was on the throne when the existing record was established.
I became transfixed and watched over after over. In the end Colling did get the individual record and with Hastings smashed the old record. Was really disappointed when it was finally beaten a few years ago.
They managed to get us even on the first innings. NZ didn't have a bad side, but it was really a nothing test apart from Rodney Redmond's century and half century on debut and never playing another test.
But for me it was the start of a love affair with Test cricket that is now 50 years old - or will be next month
I hear Collinge was a good bowler and Geoffrey Boycott struggled against him. I only remember him from highlights on a Richard Hadlee VHS I used to own. Haven’t heard about him since ( virtually all others gave interviews, appeared on Dilmah tea party etc, Collinge to my knowledge never has )
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@MN5 said in NZ v Pakistan:
@dogmeat said in NZ v Pakistan:
@MN5 The Hastings / Collinge partnership was what got me into test cricket
We were 151 runs behind on the first innings when the partnership began and had just lost 7-40 odd.
We were looking down the barrel of a big deficit and probable loss, but I wasn't that interested. Every time I walked past the TV though they were still there. First Collinge got a PB then they started talking of 100 partnership, then all sorts of records were discussed highest by a number 11 and could it be - highest partnership for 11th wicket. The commentators were going on about Queen Victoria was on the throne when the existing record was established.
I became transfixed and watched over after over. In the end Colling did get the individual record and with Hastings smashed the old record. Was really disappointed when it was finally beaten a few years ago.
They managed to get us even on the first innings. NZ didn't have a bad side, but it was really a nothing test apart from Rodney Redmond's century and half century on debut and never playing another test.
But for me it was the start of a love affair with Test cricket that is now 50 years old - or will be next month
I hear Collinge was a good bowler and Geoffrey Boycott struggled against him. I only remember him from highlights on a Richard Hadlee VHS I used to own. Haven’t heard about him since ( virtually all others gave interviews, appeared on Dilmah tea party etc, Collinge to my knowledge never has )
He was a decent Left armer ,Collinge big beefy unit a bit like a LH Merv Hughes.
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@Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:
big beefy unit a bit like a LH Merv Hughes
Great - and pretty accurate description
@MN5 Collinge was NZ's leading bowler for most of the 70's
He (like almost all the NZ side) was a part time cricketer but he was strong, willing and accurate. He could get late swing where conditions favoured him.
Was NZ's leading wicket taker when he retired with about 120 at <30 so not shabby by any means. He played in NZ's first wings against both England and Oz. I don't think Boycott struggled against Collinge as much as people say, but he did him with a beautiful late inswinger to set up that Test win in 77. He then then retired. He was talked into a comeback when our pace bowler's started dropping like flies on a tour of England the next year - but probably shouldn't have.
Despite having a lot of the players that would go on to form the Howarth team we were beaten 2-0 in the ODI's and 3-0 in the tests - never really competing.
It all improved after that as I arrived in England to gee the boys on.
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@dogmeat Funnily enough the best I remember Collinge for was getting Boycott for bugger all at Basin in our frist test win against England in 70s, the day Hadlee really seemed to come on in NZ's eyes.
I think I am remembering right, just barely watched cricket back then (and still don't claim to be expert by any stretch) but remeber we got Poms out for 100 odd to win test? Someone will check it out I am sure anf tell me how wrong I am!
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From cricinfo's Ask Steven:
All of New Zealand's players in the first Test against Pakistan were over 30. How many times has this happened in Tests? asked Simon Nicholas from New Zealand
That's a good spot, as it turns out that New Zealand's team in the first Test against Pakistan in Karachi last week was only the second time a Test team had included no one under the age of 30.
The youngest player in New Zealand's team in Karachi was Ish Sodhi, who celebrated his 30th birthday on October 31. It means the "oldest youngest" player in any Test XI remains Vallance Jupp, who was 41 days older than Sodhi when he joined ten other thirtysomethings in England's team against Australia at Headingley in 1921.
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If you look at the list of people to play test cricket for NZ over the last 2 years (e.g. how cricinfo list their 'current players' in there stats sections). 21 players.
Only 2 of them are currently under 30.
28 year old Jamieson and 23 year old Ravindra.(Glenn Phillips has fallen off this list, over 2 years since he played his one test).
Will Young has also just ticked over 30, like Sodhi.
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And the layer under that.
Here is the NZ A team that toured India 4 months ago.
Looking at the ages of the players in the team for the first 'A' test. in batting order
30
23 (Ravindra)
30
28 (Chapman)
28
29 (C Fletcher)
30
31
32
30
28 (Duffy)(They onnly took 2 youngsters on the tour. Both 23 years olds. Ravindra and young ND fast bowler Matthew Fisher (who, encouragingly, ripped it up over there)
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Sheesh Conway juggles it but clinches it.
We’ve taken 2 quick wickets here but Shakeel is still there.
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We’ve dropped a few chances albeit some very difficult ones that would’ve been classic catches for sure, but they were there.
