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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    #377

    @Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:

    big beefy unit a bit like a LH Merv Hughes

    Great - and pretty accurate description

    @MN5 Collinge was NZ's leading bowler for most of the 70's

    He (like almost all the NZ side) was a part time cricketer but he was strong, willing and accurate. He could get late swing where conditions favoured him.

    Was NZ's leading wicket taker when he retired with about 120 at <30 so not shabby by any means. He played in NZ's first wings against both England and Oz. I don't think Boycott struggled against Collinge as much as people say, but he did him with a beautiful late inswinger to set up that Test win in 77. He then then retired. He was talked into a comeback when our pace bowler's started dropping like flies on a tour of England the next year - but probably shouldn't have.

    Despite having a lot of the players that would go on to form the Howarth team we were beaten 2-0 in the ODI's and 3-0 in the tests - never really competing.

    It all improved after that as I arrived in England to gee the boys on.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    #378

    Can see Collinge footage here:

    Including from when he was a young man in 1965. Not just the more common footage from the late 70s when he was nearing retirement.

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    @dogmeat Funnily enough the best I remember Collinge for was getting Boycott for bugger all at Basin in our frist test win against England in 70s, the day Hadlee really seemed to come on in NZ's eyes.
    I think I am remembering right, just barely watched cricket back then (and still don't claim to be expert by any stretch) but remeber we got Poms out for 100 odd to win test? Someone will check it out I am sure anf tell me how wrong I am!😜

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    #380

    From cricinfo's Ask Steven:

    All of New Zealand's players in the first Test against Pakistan were over 30. How many times has this happened in Tests? asked Simon Nicholas from New Zealand

    That's a good spot, as it turns out that New Zealand's team in the first Test against Pakistan in Karachi last week was only the second time a Test team had included no one under the age of 30.

    The youngest player in New Zealand's team in Karachi was Ish Sodhi, who celebrated his 30th birthday on October 31. It means the "oldest youngest" player in any Test XI remains Vallance Jupp, who was 41 days older than Sodhi when he joined ten other thirtysomethings in England's team against Australia at Headingley in 1921.

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    #381

    If you look at the list of people to play test cricket for NZ over the last 2 years (e.g. how cricinfo list their 'current players' in there stats sections). 21 players.
    Only 2 of them are currently under 30.
    28 year old Jamieson and 23 year old Ravindra.

    (Glenn Phillips has fallen off this list, over 2 years since he played his one test).

    Will Young has also just ticked over 30, like Sodhi.

    https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting.html?class=1;current=2;id=5;type=team

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    #382

    And the layer under that.

    Here is the NZ A team that toured India 4 months ago.

    Looking at the ages of the players in the team for the first 'A' test. in batting order

    30
    23 (Ravindra)
    30
    28 (Chapman)
    28
    29 (C Fletcher)
    30
    31
    32
    30
    28 (Duffy)

    https://archive.nzc.nz/Scorecards/1222/1222523.html

    (They onnly took 2 youngsters on the tour. Both 23 years olds. Ravindra and young ND fast bowler Matthew Fisher (who, encouragingly, ripped it up over there)

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    Bit of a sloppy start this morning from NZ but now got Imam.

    Sodhi also starting to bowl well.

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  • boobooB Online
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    Ah fuck. Edge.

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  • boobooB Online
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    #385

    Not sure they can give that. Reckon spikes on ground.

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  • boobooB Online
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    But given.

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  • boobooB Online
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    Action filled half over.

    Plumb lbw with snicko saving.

    Then got lucky on the stumping.

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  • ChrisC Away
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    #388

    Good 27 overs from Henry 1/56 of 27 overs and has troubled the batsmen,all on a dead pitch for the quicks, has produced good pace in the 140s most of the time.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    #389

    Sheesh Conway juggles it but clinches it.

    We’ve taken 2 quick wickets here but Shakeel is still there.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    We’ve dropped a few chances albeit some very difficult ones that would’ve been classic catches for sure, but they were there.

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    Latham drops a very sharp chance

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    Ish strikes with a straight ball. NZ have a chance to mop up the tail with about 7 overs to play in the day. I don't think we want to bat tonight

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    Ish bowls Hamza for a duck, on a hat trick!

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  • ACT CrusaderA Do not disturb
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    Ish on a hatrick.

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    Okay boys, time to finish them off

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    #396

    I hate to kick a guy while he’s down but could Bracewell be ANY more ineffective in this match ??????

    Drop him and get KW to turn the arm over here and there now the burden of captaincy isn’t there.

    He also has better first class figures than Bracewell ( 86 wickets in 157 matches at 43 vs 33 wickets in 99 matches at 47 )

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