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EPL 2022 / 2023

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Lots of debate and some angry ex-professionals about the Man Utd equaliser yesterday. Rashford was in an offside position and following the ball but he didn't touch the ball or prevent anyone else from doing so.

    Under current absurd wording of the offside law, probably the officials made the correct decision.

    This rather good IMHO.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/jan/14/absurd-offside-law-cannot-disguise-shifting-of-sands-in-manchester?CMP=share_btn_tw

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    @sparky The main question should be does the offside player interfere with the play? Does the opposition adjust to compensate for his presences or play. Heard about the call. No dog in the fight.

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      In my view, the second that Rashford runs along with the ball just ahead of him, he is interfering with play. If he stops dead, then a City defender comes across to whack it into the stand before Bruno reaches it. I didn't like that Salah goal the other day where the defender heads the ball to stop it reaching the offside Salah's head and it lands perfectly for his feet to score. The law says that the defender's action means Salah's previous offside doesn't matter but often the defender is taking that action due to the offside player.

      Top 4 now somewhat clear of the rest as the Arse dispose of a lacklustre Spurs and Newcastle get a late winner against Fulham after Mitrovic manages a double kick penalty (poor @dogmeat ).

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      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

        In my view, the second that Rashford runs along with the ball just ahead of him, he is interfering with play. If he stops dead, then a City defender comes across to whack it into the stand before Bruno reaches it. I didn't like that Salah goal the other day where the defender heads the ball to stop it reaching the offside Salah's head and it lands perfectly for his feet to score. The law says that the defender's action means Salah's previous offside doesn't matter but often the defender is taking that action due to the offside player.

        Top 4 now somewhat clear of the rest as the Arse dispose of a lacklustre Spurs and Newcastle get a late winner against Fulham after Mitrovic manages a double kick penalty (poor @dogmeat ).

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        @KiwiPie not really that disappointed.

        Obviously would have liked a point and probably on balance deserved one for the defensive effort, but to be able to compete away against the sides at the top of the table shows how far we have come.

        We have now lost by one goal to Arsenal, Spurs, both Manchester clubs and Newcastle and arguably should have got something from the last three on that list.

        Only club below us we have lost to (as I keep saying) is a very lucky West Ham. Shows we deserve to be around where we are.

        I think Brighton are better than us and Liverpool should be, but we are in a group with Liverpool and Brentford - who halfway through the season - are sorting out 8-10 in the table and we are 16 points above the drop. There are a couple of other teams who should get their shit together in the second half, but I think we are potentially going to finish about 12-14. At teh start of the season I would have been more than happy finishing 17th on goal difference 🙂

        After pissing the Championship last season it's a great time to be a Fulham supporter. Really is a season of redemptionb for the Manager and so many of the players who had been written off as not up to the Prem, both at Fulham and elsewhere - Leno, Pereira, Willian.

        Now if we can just keep hold of Mitro, Pailhinha and Silva we can build on this and become a consistent Premiership side.

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        • broughieB broughie

          @sparky The main question should be does the offside player interfere with the play? Does the opposition adjust to compensate for his presences or play. Heard about the call. No dog in the fight.

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          @broughie The current offside law doesn't mention "interfering with play", it talks about stopping another player from playing the ball.

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            The NLD has been won by the home team for most of the last decade, so a great win for Arsenal. Ramsdale was immense. He stopped every shot Spurs had on goal, as well as a muppet of a fan. 😉

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              The bookies now make Arsenal the favourite for this season's title for the first time.

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                worst run of results for the Cherries now since pre Redknapp, lowest ave number of shots on goal per game since PL stats started scoring stats in 97. GON continues to play players out of position and trying to play a Parker type press but without anyone attacking in packs/groups. Most supporters were 50/50 on his appointment because he got us through a tough patch, but most were convinced he wouldn't be the one to take us further.

                Now it is clear he isn't and GON must go, If Foley wants to keep his promise of us staying up, he needs to go. Not helping we cant secure players in transfer window when you're playing they way you are as well...not significantly terrible, just boring and playing as individuals out of position.

                Not dead yet, but hanging on for dear life

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @broughie The current offside law doesn't mention "interfering with play", it talks about stopping another player from playing the ball.

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                  @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  @broughie The current offside law doesn't mention "interfering with play", it talks about stopping another player from playing the ball.

                  Thanks for the clarification

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                    worst run of results for the Cherries now since pre Redknapp, lowest ave number of shots on goal per game since PL stats started scoring stats in 97. GON continues to play players out of position and trying to play a Parker type press but without anyone attacking in packs/groups. Most supporters were 50/50 on his appointment because he got us through a tough patch, but most were convinced he wouldn't be the one to take us further.

                    Now it is clear he isn't and GON must go, If Foley wants to keep his promise of us staying up, he needs to go. Not helping we cant secure players in transfer window when you're playing they way you are as well...not significantly terrible, just boring and playing as individuals out of position.

                    Not dead yet, but hanging on for dear life

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                    @bayimports said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                    worst run of results for the Cherries now since pre Redknapp, lowest ave number of shots on goal per game since PL stats started scoring stats in 97. GON continues to play players out of position and trying to play a Parker type press but without anyone attacking in packs/groups. Most supporters were 50/50 on his appointment because he got us through a tough patch, but most were convinced he wouldn't be the one to take us further.

                    Now it is clear he isn't and GON must go, If Foley wants to keep his promise of us staying up, he needs to go. Not helping we cant secure players in transfer window when you're playing they way you are as well...not significantly terrible, just boring and playing as individuals out of position.

                    Not dead yet, but hanging on for dear life

                    Everyone knew that once he was given a contract, Bournemouth would head a downwards trend. It always happens unfortunately.

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                      So Chelsea snatch Mudryk from Arsenal - yet another new player. So for the past 2 windows it is

                      W. Fofana 80m
                      Mudryk 70m
                      Cucurella 65m
                      Sterling 56m
                      Badiashile 38m
                      Koulibaly 38m
                      Chukwuemeka 18m
                      Santos 12.5m
                      Aubameyang 12m
                      D. Fofana 12m
                      Slonina 9m

                      plus Joao Felix & Zakaria on loan - they are only a right-back away from signing a whole team.

                      Net spend is 350m plus - and still no real sign of a plan.

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        So Chelsea snatch Mudryk from Arsenal - yet another new player. So for the past 2 windows it is

                        W. Fofana 80m
                        Mudryk 70m
                        Cucurella 65m
                        Sterling 56m
                        Badiashile 38m
                        Koulibaly 38m
                        Chukwuemeka 18m
                        Santos 12.5m
                        Aubameyang 12m
                        D. Fofana 12m
                        Slonina 9m

                        plus Joao Felix & Zakaria on loan - they are only a right-back away from signing a whole team.

                        Net spend is 350m plus - and still no real sign of a plan.

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                        @KiwiPie but they're sitting third - in West London.

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                          Chris Wood loan move to Forest.

                          Quite gutted about this. Wood gave me a genuine reason to be on the Newcastle / Howe bandwagon.

                          Now, I don't have one other than being a glory hunter.

                          @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                          @KiwiPie but they're sitting third - in West London.

                          Very good. Have to accept!

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                            Chris Wood loan move to Forest.

                            Quite gutted about this. Wood gave me a genuine reason to be on the Newcastle / Howe bandwagon.

                            Now, I don't have one other than being a glory hunter.

                            @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                            @KiwiPie but they're sitting third - in West London.

                            Very good. Have to accept!

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                            @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                            Chris Wood loan move to Forest.

                            It appears this will become a permanent deal.

                            Leandro Trossard to Arsenal is a good move. He can play across the front line so allows rotation.

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                              A big win for Arsenal over Man U after Man City won earlier in the day.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                A big win for Arsenal over Man U after Man City won earlier in the day.

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                                @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                A big win for Arsenal over Man U after Man City won earlier in the day.

                                Really enjoyable game. I’d be in the anyone but city camp and arsenal would do just fine.

                                TBH I’m enjoying football more than rugby at the moment. The European Rugby cup has a really stupid format, I don’t really have a team I support and the rugby is generally meh.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  Chris Wood loan move to Forest.

                                  It appears this will become a permanent deal.

                                  Leandro Trossard to Arsenal is a good move. He can play across the front line so allows rotation.

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                                  @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  Chris Wood loan move to Forest.

                                  It appears this will become a permanent deal.

                                  Leandro Trossard to Arsenal is a good move. He can play across the front line so allows rotation.

                                  Wood to Forest - poetic. Really hard to know how much game time he will get long term given how many players they have bought - but I think Awoniyi is injured so he should be an upgrade from Surridge.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    A big win for Arsenal over Man U after Man City won earlier in the day.

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                                    @Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    A big win for Arsenal over Man U after Man City won earlier in the day.

                                    Could only watch the first 30 minutes but it looked a great game with both teams going for it. United aren't fully functional yet but are very dangerous and play to their strengths. Those 2 Arse v City encounters are shaping up as the major hurdle for Arsenal other than just losing their way at some point.

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                                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

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                                      That is one odd looking prem league table …. Look at the 3 in the relegation zone!!

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                                      @MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      6609CE41-3D1E-4052-B49B-5DB696B16D99.jpeg

                                      That is one odd looking prem league table …. Look at the 3 in the relegation zone!!

                                      How da fuk ate fulham up there

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                                        Arsenal did not go into their shell a 2-2 which shows a lot of confidence. Great game and goals.

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                                          Lampard gooorn

                                          Surprised he's lasted as long as he has TBH

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