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  • Dan54D Dan54

    @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
    But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

    It is notable that Blackadder had a very good squad and never won a chip for the same organisation

    Mate don't tell me , I didn't say it. I actually thought it was more interesting to see about how the academy works how much Crusaders put into it (same as the actual Crusaders squad) and the forward planning they do (ie seeing where they think they need players in certain position a few years ahead). Out of interest he only talking about the last 10 years since he been there and the set up, and would Blackadder of even benefited from that set up? Did you not read it?

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    @Dan54 Robertson has been with the Crusaders for 6 seasons. Blackadder had the 8 seasons before that. You can do the math; Blackadder would have been able to benefit at least the last few seasons he was coaching them.

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      @Dan54 Robertson has been with the Crusaders for 6 seasons. Blackadder had the 8 seasons before that. You can do the math; Blackadder would have been able to benefit at least the last few seasons he was coaching them.

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      @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Dan54 Robertson has been with the Crusaders for 6 seasons. Blackadder had the 8 seasons before that. You can do the math; Blackadder would have been able to benefit at least the last few seasons he was coaching them.

      Is Blackadder trying for AB job, not sure why he's in the conversation,

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Dan54 Robertson has been with the Crusaders for 6 seasons. Blackadder had the 8 seasons before that. You can do the math; Blackadder would have been able to benefit at least the last few seasons he was coaching them.

        Is Blackadder trying for AB job, not sure why he's in the conversation,

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        @Dan54 See @canefan's last post in this thread.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Dan54 See @canefan's last post in this thread.

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          @Stargazer I repeat I didn't say it the Crusaders CEO said it and why is anyone discussing Blackadder anyway? I not saying Blackadder was a good or bad coach, just not relevant. And anyway enough about him, just find how well organised their academy is seems bloody great to me.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Stargazer I repeat I didn't say it the Crusaders CEO said it and why is anyone discussing Blackadder anyway? I not saying Blackadder was a good or bad coach, just not relevant. And anyway enough about him, just find how well organised their academy is seems bloody great to me.

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            @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Stargazer I repeat I didn't say it the Crusaders CEO said it and why is anyone discussing Blackadder anyway? I not saying Blackadder was a good or bad coach, just not relevant. And anyway enough about him, just find how well organised their academy is seems bloody great to me.

            You are doing an excellent job of missing the point. The CEO tries to imply Razor's role in their success was not as great as we are led to believe. I say the organisation is the same yet Toddy couldn't achieve the same results as Razor. Capiche? It's not about you

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              Interesting to see Crusaders CEO hinting that Razor perhaps gets too much credit for the squads resuts?
              But really bloody interesting to see hgow good their academy is and how much they seem to spend on it!
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300796610/webb-of-intrigue-the-man-behind-the-crusaders-production-line

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              @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

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                @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

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                @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                  @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                  Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

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                  @Chris How is Andrew Goodman in regards to taking over as head coach after Razor's time is up?

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                    @Chris How is Andrew Goodman in regards to taking over as head coach after Razor's time is up?

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                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    @Chris How is Andrew Goodman in regards to taking over as head coach after Razor's time is up?

                    He would a a real favourite,players really like him and I hear he is rated pretty highly.

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                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-new-zealand-rugbys-bold-all-blacks-move-and-the-three-ugly-scenarios-facing-ian-foster/HKOVD7MFOFBDJI5DHDFGOAJSNI/

                      New Zealand Rugby will dispense with its historic timeline of waiting until after the World Cup to determine the next All Blacks coach, and will instead, within the next eight-to-10 weeks, reveal who will be at the helm of the national team in 2024.

                      Chief executive Mark Robinson has presented a recommendation that the process to find the next All Blacks coach begin this month, and the unprecedented plan will be signed off on February 23 when the board next meets.

                      NZR has declined to comment on the issue, but incumbent coach Ian Foster has been made aware of his employer’s intention and the rationale, which according to multiple sources, is based on a desire to bring New Zealand into line with the other Tier One nations, the majority of whom will be at the World Cup later this year with certainty around their longer-term coaching plan.

                      So, too, has the determination been made that an early process will mitigate against candidates being picked off by other international sides as happened in 2019.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-new-zealand-rugbys-bold-all-blacks-move-and-the-three-ugly-scenarios-facing-ian-foster/HKOVD7MFOFBDJI5DHDFGOAJSNI/

                        New Zealand Rugby will dispense with its historic timeline of waiting until after the World Cup to determine the next All Blacks coach, and will instead, within the next eight-to-10 weeks, reveal who will be at the helm of the national team in 2024.

                        Chief executive Mark Robinson has presented a recommendation that the process to find the next All Blacks coach begin this month, and the unprecedented plan will be signed off on February 23 when the board next meets.

                        NZR has declined to comment on the issue, but incumbent coach Ian Foster has been made aware of his employer’s intention and the rationale, which according to multiple sources, is based on a desire to bring New Zealand into line with the other Tier One nations, the majority of whom will be at the World Cup later this year with certainty around their longer-term coaching plan.

                        So, too, has the determination been made that an early process will mitigate against candidates being picked off by other international sides as happened in 2019.

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                        @Tim you have to wonder if Foster had any intention to stay on anyway, win or lose.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Tim you have to wonder if Foster had any intention to stay on anyway, win or lose.

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                          @taniwharugby Yeah, to me it reads like he had decided to retire.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @taniwharugby Yeah, to me it reads like he had decided to retire.

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                            @Tim said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            @taniwharugby Yeah, to me it reads like he had decided to retire.

                            I was very surprised when the press entered him back into the conversation to be honest.
                            Always assumed that this was his swan song.

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                              NZR going to do the right thing for once.
                              I'm passionate as ever about NZ rugby but there are large challenges to be faced next year. Last 3-4 years have been diabolical at times

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                                Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

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                                @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                                Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

                                Obviously a pretty switched on fella, and doing great job at Academy if what Mainsbridge is aying sums him up he certainly doing good work. Not all good stuff is done by coaches, there so much behind scenes that make for successful teams!
                                Quite different skills required I think.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @taniwharugby Yeah, to me it reads like he had decided to retire.

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                                  @Tim Yep had heard that in grapevine quite sometime ago, he always thought 4 years was enough. (If so pleased mt scources are still reasonably good lol)

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                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                                    Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

                                    Obviously a pretty switched on fella, and doing great job at Academy if what Mainsbridge is aying sums him up he certainly doing good work. Not all good stuff is done by coaches, there so much behind scenes that make for successful teams!
                                    Quite different skills required I think.

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                                    @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                                    Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

                                    Obviously a pretty switched on fella, and doing great job at Academy if what Mainsbridge is aying sums him up he certainly doing good work. Not all good stuff is done by coaches, there so much behind scenes that make for successful teams!

                                    100%, He does a great job, good at relating to young players and parents and a really organised Individual.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @SBW1 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      @Dan54 Is Aaron Webb a future Head coach?

                                      Aaron is a strength and Conditioning coach he has been The Manager of the Academy not a Rugby coach really.

                                      Obviously a pretty switched on fella, and doing great job at Academy if what Mainsbridge is aying sums him up he certainly doing good work. Not all good stuff is done by coaches, there so much behind scenes that make for successful teams!

                                      100%, He does a great job, good at relating to young players and parents and a really organised Individual.

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                                      @Chris just pleases me so much when these fellas get given credit, and just wish people realised how good they are for sport.
                                      Not blowing wind up your backside, but I understand how you do similar with young cricketers over there, it is what keeps the game going at higher level especially.

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        @Chris just pleases me so much when these fellas get given credit, and just wish people realised how good they are for sport.
                                        Not blowing wind up your backside, but I understand how you do similar with young cricketers over there, it is what keeps the game going at higher level especially.

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                                        @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        @Chris just pleases me so much when these fellas get given credit, and just wish people realised how good they are for sport.
                                        Not blowing wind up your backside, but I understand how you do similar with young cricketers over there, it is what keeps the game going at higher level especially.

                                        I know you aren't,but I appreciate the comment.

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                                          Sounds like there is some action coming

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300801582/crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-reveals-all-blacks-coaching-announcement-imminent

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