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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    A few new names to keep an eye out for in the Aussie squads.

    Mosese Tuipulotu - Waratahs - Midfielder. Brother of Scotland's Sione Tuipulotu - a big bustling midfielder who impressed during preseason.

    Max Jorgensen - Waratahs - Fullback/wing. Just a teenager but very highly rated. With Beale no longer featuring is more likely to get game time.

    Tom Lynagh - Reds - First five. Son of Michael Lynagh. Just a youngster at 19. His older brother Louis Lynagh got picked by Eddie in an England wider squad but is yet to be capped.

    Corey Toole / Ben O'Donnell - Brumbies - outside backs. Both from the Aussie 7s team who won the World Series last season. Toole is smaller but the more dynamic of the two.

    Some names familiar to NZ who are new to squads this year (I'm sured i've missed a few): Monty Ioane (Rebels), Taleni Seu (Tahs), Jack Debreczeni (Brumbies), Tamaiti Tua (Brumbies)

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    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

    Max Jorgensen - Waratahs - Fullback/wing. Just a teenager but very highly rated. With Beale no longer featuring is more likely to get game time.

    Son of PeterJorgensen former Wallabies wing who switched to State House rugby.

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      The Stuff journos were picking young players (<21 yr old) so could also have chosen other players in the same age range.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Crucial Yes very good point about injuries. If injuries strike the locks (or they decide to take 4 locks) someone like Josh Lord could potentially force their way in to the AB squad.

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        @KiwiMurph have to think Lord has inside running given he has been part of thier plans and they don't often drop people due to an injury.

        Hopefully another lock emerges and pushes everyone on, similarly loosies, the likes of Grace, MMT, Robinson, Flanders, Christie, PGS, Lakai (plus a few other names i expect) will all be pushing the encumbants, as will Blackadder who no doubt has an inside running to overtake one of Ioane or Frizzell...def some options out there, but injury could give someone a shot, and make them a legend in a RWC year, NMS styles... 😉

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          These coaches love Frizell. He usually looks good in Super too so I can’t see him being dropped.

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            ESPN has published a series of team previews for the 2023 season:

            https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35656265/super-rugby-pacific-2023-previewing-blues-brumbies-chiefs-crusaders

            https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35697581/super-rugby-pacific-preview-drua-force-highlanders-hurricanes

            https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35699062/super-rugby-pacific-preview-melbourne-rebels-moana-pasifika-nsw-waratahs-queensland-reds

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              To cut to the chase in those articles..

              FINAL PREDICTIONS
              Crusaders
              Chiefs
              Blues
              Waratahs
              Brumbies
              Hurricanes
              Reds
              Force
              Highlanders
              Drua
              Moana Pasifika
              Melbourne Rebels

              Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                To cut to the chase in those articles..

                FINAL PREDICTIONS
                Crusaders
                Chiefs
                Blues
                Waratahs
                Brumbies
                Hurricanes
                Reds
                Force
                Highlanders
                Drua
                Moana Pasifika
                Melbourne Rebels

                Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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                @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                eat to offer hope

                This is a charity I can get behind. Where do I sign up?

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                  Drua too low

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    To cut to the chase in those articles..

                    FINAL PREDICTIONS
                    Crusaders
                    Chiefs
                    Blues
                    Waratahs
                    Brumbies
                    Hurricanes
                    Reds
                    Force
                    Highlanders
                    Drua
                    Moana Pasifika
                    Melbourne Rebels

                    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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                    #464

                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    To cut to the chase in those articles..

                    FINAL PREDICTIONS
                    Crusaders
                    Chiefs
                    Blues
                    Waratahs
                    Brumbies
                    Hurricanes
                    Reds
                    Force
                    Highlanders
                    Drua
                    Moana Pasifika
                    Melbourne Rebels

                    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                    Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                    These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                    374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      To cut to the chase in those articles..

                      FINAL PREDICTIONS
                      Crusaders
                      Chiefs
                      Blues
                      Waratahs
                      Brumbies
                      Hurricanes
                      Reds
                      Force
                      Highlanders
                      Drua
                      Moana Pasifika
                      Melbourne Rebels

                      Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                      Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                      These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                      374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                      @Canes4life Yep I with you , I reckon Waratahs will be top Aus team this year, may duke it out with Brumbies for that crown, but think they may beat them.

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                        I don't know if Brumbies 2023 will necessarily be as good as the 2022 version. Coaching change, a few personnel losses.....
                        Could be better, who knows. Just wouldn't take last year as the indication.
                        Likewise Tahs.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Drua too low

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                          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          Drua too low

                          I agree. Just had a closer look and they have 6 home games this year. No one gets off easy playing in Fiji and three of those games are quite winnable for them (Rebels, MP, Reds)

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            To cut to the chase in those articles..

                            FINAL PREDICTIONS
                            Crusaders
                            Chiefs
                            Blues
                            Waratahs
                            Brumbies
                            Hurricanes
                            Reds
                            Force
                            Highlanders
                            Drua
                            Moana Pasifika
                            Melbourne Rebels

                            Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                            Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                            These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                            374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            To cut to the chase in those articles..

                            FINAL PREDICTIONS
                            Crusaders
                            Chiefs
                            Blues
                            Waratahs
                            Brumbies
                            Hurricanes
                            Reds
                            Force
                            Highlanders
                            Drua
                            Moana Pasifika
                            Melbourne Rebels

                            Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                            Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                            These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                            374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

                            Interesting looking at the odds of the Brumbies. I know Bernie wants them to play a more entertaining game to help bring back the crowds. They're also spending more time in community engagement to help drive interest, including actually sending out name players to schools etc. rather than extended squad players no one has heard of.

                            The problem is the perennial one in Australian sport - you need to be winning.

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                              After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                              https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                                https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                                @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                                  @Stargazer

                                  Probably next week. Still tweaking a few things.. I'll set them up as teams and then you can update the team sheets & highlights etc

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                                    https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1628526477057867776

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                                      My prediction for the NZ sides

                                      Crusaders to top the round robin and win it overall. I just hope they at least don't win every game and give the other teams hope at times. But they're just too strong with a great head coach and too much depth. Another boring outcome if I'm right
                                      Chiefs and Blues to fight it out for the 2nd NZ team with Chiefs just coming out on top.
                                      Hurricanes to finish 4th. I always hope for more but realistically the team has some great players but not enough and don't think they've got a hope of finishing higher than the other three. I hope I'm wrong though and in the new training Centre they develop players to go all the way
                                      Highlanders 5th.
                                      MP 6th. They will do well to match last year.

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                                        How good

                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                          How good

                                          https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                          @Canes4life

                                          Might be one less after tonight. Bit worried about Grace with that shoulder.

                                          However, the Chiefs have a few back-up 6s as well.

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