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    ESPN has published a series of team previews for the 2023 season:

    https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35656265/super-rugby-pacific-2023-previewing-blues-brumbies-chiefs-crusaders

    https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35697581/super-rugby-pacific-preview-drua-force-highlanders-hurricanes

    https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35699062/super-rugby-pacific-preview-melbourne-rebels-moana-pasifika-nsw-waratahs-queensland-reds

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      To cut to the chase in those articles..

      FINAL PREDICTIONS
      Crusaders
      Chiefs
      Blues
      Waratahs
      Brumbies
      Hurricanes
      Reds
      Force
      Highlanders
      Drua
      Moana Pasifika
      Melbourne Rebels

      Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        To cut to the chase in those articles..

        FINAL PREDICTIONS
        Crusaders
        Chiefs
        Blues
        Waratahs
        Brumbies
        Hurricanes
        Reds
        Force
        Highlanders
        Drua
        Moana Pasifika
        Melbourne Rebels

        Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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        @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

        eat to offer hope

        This is a charity I can get behind. Where do I sign up?

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        • KiwiMurphK Offline
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          #463

          Drua too low

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            To cut to the chase in those articles..

            FINAL PREDICTIONS
            Crusaders
            Chiefs
            Blues
            Waratahs
            Brumbies
            Hurricanes
            Reds
            Force
            Highlanders
            Drua
            Moana Pasifika
            Melbourne Rebels

            Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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            Canes4life
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            #464

            @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

            To cut to the chase in those articles..

            FINAL PREDICTIONS
            Crusaders
            Chiefs
            Blues
            Waratahs
            Brumbies
            Hurricanes
            Reds
            Force
            Highlanders
            Drua
            Moana Pasifika
            Melbourne Rebels

            Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

            Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

            These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

            374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

              To cut to the chase in those articles..

              FINAL PREDICTIONS
              Crusaders
              Chiefs
              Blues
              Waratahs
              Brumbies
              Hurricanes
              Reds
              Force
              Highlanders
              Drua
              Moana Pasifika
              Melbourne Rebels

              Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

              Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

              These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

              374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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              @Canes4life Yep I with you , I reckon Waratahs will be top Aus team this year, may duke it out with Brumbies for that crown, but think they may beat them.

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                #466

                I don't know if Brumbies 2023 will necessarily be as good as the 2022 version. Coaching change, a few personnel losses.....
                Could be better, who knows. Just wouldn't take last year as the indication.
                Likewise Tahs.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Drua too low

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Drua too low

                  I agree. Just had a closer look and they have 6 home games this year. No one gets off easy playing in Fiji and three of those games are quite winnable for them (Rebels, MP, Reds)

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    To cut to the chase in those articles..

                    FINAL PREDICTIONS
                    Crusaders
                    Chiefs
                    Blues
                    Waratahs
                    Brumbies
                    Hurricanes
                    Reds
                    Force
                    Highlanders
                    Drua
                    Moana Pasifika
                    Melbourne Rebels

                    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                    Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                    These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                    374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                    #468

                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                    To cut to the chase in those articles..

                    FINAL PREDICTIONS
                    Crusaders
                    Chiefs
                    Blues
                    Waratahs
                    Brumbies
                    Hurricanes
                    Reds
                    Force
                    Highlanders
                    Drua
                    Moana Pasifika
                    Melbourne Rebels

                    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                    Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                    These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                    374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

                    Interesting looking at the odds of the Brumbies. I know Bernie wants them to play a more entertaining game to help bring back the crowds. They're also spending more time in community engagement to help drive interest, including actually sending out name players to schools etc. rather than extended squad players no one has heard of.

                    The problem is the perennial one in Australian sport - you need to be winning.

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                    • DuluthD Offline
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                      #469

                      After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                      https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                        https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                        #470

                        @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                          Duluth
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                          #471

                          @Stargazer

                          Probably next week. Still tweaking a few things.. I'll set them up as teams and then you can update the team sheets & highlights etc

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                            Stargazer
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                            https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1628526477057867776

                            Bigger:

                            alt text

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                              #473

                              My prediction for the NZ sides

                              Crusaders to top the round robin and win it overall. I just hope they at least don't win every game and give the other teams hope at times. But they're just too strong with a great head coach and too much depth. Another boring outcome if I'm right
                              Chiefs and Blues to fight it out for the 2nd NZ team with Chiefs just coming out on top.
                              Hurricanes to finish 4th. I always hope for more but realistically the team has some great players but not enough and don't think they've got a hope of finishing higher than the other three. I hope I'm wrong though and in the new training Centre they develop players to go all the way
                              Highlanders 5th.
                              MP 6th. They will do well to match last year.

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                                #474

                                How good

                                https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                  How good

                                  https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                  @Canes4life

                                  Might be one less after tonight. Bit worried about Grace with that shoulder.

                                  However, the Chiefs have a few back-up 6s as well.

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                                    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                                      I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                      I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                                      @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                      I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                                      And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                                      Very good for game I thought.

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                                        @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                        I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                                        And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                                        Very good for game I thought.

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                                        chimoaus
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                                        #478

                                        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                        I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                                        And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                                        Very good for game I thought.

                                        Yes, very hard on the hookers, those already with wobbly throwing will be badly exposed as they don't have time to compose themselves and have a breather, I feel sorry for them but makes lineouts more interesting for sure.

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                                          Also why did we see the reluctance to go for a scrum close to the line, instead they opted for a tap, have not seen that for some time except in the dying minutes. Not sure if that is a lack of trust in the scrum or just a different tactic.

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