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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

    To cut to the chase in those articles..

    FINAL PREDICTIONS
    Crusaders
    Chiefs
    Blues
    Waratahs
    Brumbies
    Hurricanes
    Reds
    Force
    Highlanders
    Drua
    Moana Pasifika
    Melbourne Rebels

    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

    Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

    These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

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    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

    To cut to the chase in those articles..

    FINAL PREDICTIONS
    Crusaders
    Chiefs
    Blues
    Waratahs
    Brumbies
    Hurricanes
    Reds
    Force
    Highlanders
    Drua
    Moana Pasifika
    Melbourne Rebels

    Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

    Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

    These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

    374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

    Interesting looking at the odds of the Brumbies. I know Bernie wants them to play a more entertaining game to help bring back the crowds. They're also spending more time in community engagement to help drive interest, including actually sending out name players to schools etc. rather than extended squad players no one has heard of.

    The problem is the perennial one in Australian sport - you need to be winning.

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      After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

      https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

        https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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        @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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          @Stargazer

          Probably next week. Still tweaking a few things.. I'll set them up as teams and then you can update the team sheets & highlights etc

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            https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1628526477057867776

            Bigger:

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              #473

              My prediction for the NZ sides

              Crusaders to top the round robin and win it overall. I just hope they at least don't win every game and give the other teams hope at times. But they're just too strong with a great head coach and too much depth. Another boring outcome if I'm right
              Chiefs and Blues to fight it out for the 2nd NZ team with Chiefs just coming out on top.
              Hurricanes to finish 4th. I always hope for more but realistically the team has some great players but not enough and don't think they've got a hope of finishing higher than the other three. I hope I'm wrong though and in the new training Centre they develop players to go all the way
              Highlanders 5th.
              MP 6th. They will do well to match last year.

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                How good

                https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                  How good

                  https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                  @Canes4life

                  Might be one less after tonight. Bit worried about Grace with that shoulder.

                  However, the Chiefs have a few back-up 6s as well.

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                    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                      I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                      I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                      @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                      I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                      And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                      Very good for game I thought.

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                        I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                        And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                        Very good for game I thought.

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                        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                        I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                        And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                        Very good for game I thought.

                        Yes, very hard on the hookers, those already with wobbly throwing will be badly exposed as they don't have time to compose themselves and have a breather, I feel sorry for them but makes lineouts more interesting for sure.

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                          Also why did we see the reluctance to go for a scrum close to the line, instead they opted for a tap, have not seen that for some time except in the dying minutes. Not sure if that is a lack of trust in the scrum or just a different tactic.

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                          • chimoausC chimoaus

                            I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                            I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                            @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                            I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                            @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                            I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                            Agree, things have noticeably sped up. So these new rules are not yet approved for tests? Hopefully we are not shooting ourselves in the foot for the World Cup with our fatties having to be not so fat to keep up in Super Rugby and then struggling against the big boppers in test footy.

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                              Odds on Reds coaching staff to see out the season?

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                                These new laws, or mostly interpretations, ... looking awesome.
                                But...

                                • Which coach is going to be the first to figure out the first loophole / twisting?
                                  And... Are the same interpretations going to be in place in France?
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                                • KruseK Kruse

                                  These new laws, or mostly interpretations, ... looking awesome.
                                  But...

                                  • Which coach is going to be the first to figure out the first loophole / twisting?
                                    And... Are the same interpretations going to be in place in France?
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                                  Stargazer
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                                  @Kruse These new law application guidelines come from SANZAAR, so the NH will be against it. 🙄

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                                    @Kruse These new law application guidelines come from SANZAAR, so the NH will be against it. 🙄

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                                    @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

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                                      @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

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                                      @Tim said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                      @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

                                      Nope they're just playing that way, possession based games.

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                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

                                        Nope they're just playing that way, possession based games.

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                                        @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

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                                          @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

                                          Only the kick clocks, water boys, not to the same extent as SR. But last year's matches had on average 5 or 6 minutes more in play than RC, sadly it's the SH who are the turgid teams now

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