Foster, Robertson etc
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I am getting more confused I need meds too.
"Dame Patsy, our highly respected former Governor-General, is it true that you are fronting a completely bogus recruitment process for All Black coach, in which the outcome is already decided, but through which you're going to drag a fair percentage of our elite coaches (one way or another), line up a highly reputable panel of assessors who will be patsies for this pre-determined outcome, and if word of this happens to leak (which apparently it has), everyone involved will have their reputation shot to pieces and will be fired from board, executive or any other rugby role they happen to hold?"
Dame Patsy: "What the fuck?!!!"
@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I am getting more confused I need meds too.
"Dame Patsy, our highly respected former Governor-General, is it true that you are fronting a completely bogus recruitment process for All Black coach, in which the outcome is already decided, but through which you're going to drag a fair percentage of our elite coaches (one way or another), line up a highly reputable panel of assessors who will be patsies for this pre-determined outcome, and if word of this happens to leak (which apparently it has), everyone involved will have their reputation shot to pieces and will be fired from board, executive or any other rugby role they happen to hold?"
Dame Patsy: "What the fuck?!!!"
That’s far to much logic for this thread
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@Chris-B said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I am getting more confused I need meds too.
"Dame Patsy, our highly respected former Governor-General, is it true that you are fronting a completely bogus recruitment process for All Black coach, in which the outcome is already decided, but through which you're going to drag a fair percentage of our elite coaches (one way or another), line up a highly reputable panel of assessors who will be patsies for this pre-determined outcome, and if word of this happens to leak (which apparently it has), everyone involved will have their reputation shot to pieces and will be fired from board, executive or any other rugby role they happen to hold?"
Dame Patsy: "What the fuck?!!!"
That’s far to much logic for this thread
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@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
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@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
Because the only person that could blow your cover is illiterate?
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
Because the only person that could blow your cover is illiterate?
@Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
Because the only person that could blow your cover is illiterate?
Of course the answer was right before my eyes.
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@kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I'd like those claiming Joseph is the better coach to at least attempt to back it up with some evidence - they can't.
4I would suggest none of us know who the best coach is, we haven't been coached by them, and to be honest, from what I have read on posts, most are looking at results only. Not a lot seem to think coaching at different levels requires usually different skills, from what I have seen most have got their knowledge from reading opinions of other posters or so called press.
I have to say I find it hard to disagree with Mariner4life about how arrogant some so called AB supporters appear to be, an awful lot seem to know a lot more about requirements of top level coaches than the people actually talking to and involved in the process of appointing coaches, a lot seem to get an awful lot of knowledge sitting on their arses in whatever part of the world they are in!
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I would suggest none of us know who the best coach is, we haven't been coached by them, and to be honest, from what I have read on posts, most are looking at results only. Not a lot seem to think coaching at different levels requires usually different skills, from what I have seen most have got their knowledge from reading opinions of other posters or so called press.
I have to say I find it hard to disagree with Mariner4life about how arrogant some so called AB supporters appear to be, an awful lot seem to know a lot more about requirements of top level coaches than the people actually talking to and involved in the process of appointing coaches, a lot seem to get an awful lot of knowledge sitting on their arses in whatever part of the world they are in!
Can we quote you on this if you ever say anything in the future about any part of rugby in which you are not personally an acknowledged expert?
In fact, why be on a sports forum at all if you think people expressing their views about sport is "arrogant"?
Me, I'm going to stick to having opinions, in the good knowledge that sometimes I will be wrong.
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@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
....... and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him ...........
what does this even mean?
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@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
....... and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him ...........
what does this even mean?
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@Kiwiwomble it means I no stuff
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Kiwiwomble it means I no stuff
:cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:
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Whether this is trolling or the sauciest of sauces, I don't care, because at least this thread is worth reading again.
If it's not Robertson and is one of the current team, then:
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Richard Knowler has been speaking to George33
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Interesting thread now. Personally I would like to see Joe Schmidt align with Joseph and Brown. I think we need longer term strategic thinking in the coaching group to take a class of 2024, stacked with newbies, forward. I am not convinced with Leon McDonald or Jason Holland and think Razor would be better off aligning with someone proven on the international stage, with the experience of planning 4 years cycles.
I hope the big name bolter is not Clayton McMillan. We need him at the Chiefs!
I wonder how many of the rumours come from taxi and coach drivers who take people to meetings and see who is unexpectedly present or who is talking with whom, and it grows from there? Consideration of any serious candidate would involve 'what if' scenarios on their support staff and succession plans for jobs possibly being vacated. So, there are bound to be plenty of genuine 'what if' conversations that might be overheard and misunderstood.
Can't see Dame Patsy Reddy being as dishonest and callous as some are already suggesting. I think it will be a genuine process, or there will be huge changes at NZRU when an alternative truth comes out.
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surely if they were looking to promote Schmidt, Foster would have been on board for that and endorse him, as Hansen did for him and Henry for Hansen....but Foster wasnt happy with the process....
we are inching closer to 6,000 posts in this thread though
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@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
And why is Fozzie mouthing off in the press about the process? Unless of course he is pissed that his main assistant will be taking over, which will definitely augur well for the coming months...
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
And why is Fozzie mouthing off in the press about the process? Unless of course he is pissed that his main assistant will be taking over, which will definitely augur well for the coming months...
@junior said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris as I said it's Schmidt and I'm not his mother and big name bolter with him and u can look forward to this
If Schmidt was told 2 weeks ago why not announce him as AB coach ?and not go through a pretend interview process with other coaches ?
And why is Fozzie mouthing off in the press about the process? Unless of course he is pissed that his main assistant will be taking over, which will definitely augur well for the coming months...
Agreed makes no sense
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@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
I would suggest none of us know who the best coach is, we haven't been coached by them, and to be honest, from what I have read on posts, most are looking at results only. Not a lot seem to think coaching at different levels requires usually different skills, from what I have seen most have got their knowledge from reading opinions of other posters or so called press.
I have to say I find it hard to disagree with Mariner4life about how arrogant some so called AB supporters appear to be, an awful lot seem to know a lot more about requirements of top level coaches than the people actually talking to and involved in the process of appointing coaches, a lot seem to get an awful lot of knowledge sitting on their arses in whatever part of the world they are in!
Can we quote you on this if you ever say anything in the future about any part of rugby in which you are not personally an acknowledged expert?
In fact, why be on a sports forum at all if you think people expressing their views about sport is "arrogant"?
Me, I'm going to stick to having opinions, in the good knowledge that sometimes I will be wrong.
Opinion and conjecture are great - as is talking shit. It's why we're all here, I guess.
What I think pisses people off a bit is opinion (e.g. on the abilities of the folks who pick the AB coach) being presented as truth, and conjecture & hypothesis being regarded as sacrosanct facts - often being used for personal attacks or hero-worship of one coach, player or another.
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heard a soundbite on the radio this morning from David Moffat with a simple message to Mark Robinson over this debacle..."Leave"
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
heard a soundbite on the radio this morning from David Moffat with a simple message to Mark Robinson over this debacle..."Leave"
@Bovidae has summed this up perfectly.
Rent a quote failed CEO.
Not NZ's worst CEO only because David Rutherford.
Robinson not even in the conversation.
