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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

    Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

    Fern: FAILURE

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    @nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

    Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

    Fern: FAILURE

    NZ of all nations should understand how hard it is to win RWCs. After all it took us 24 years between cup wins #1 and #2

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      I can't believe people have the energy to keep this up every day. Pace yourself. You'll need that energy once Schmit Hammett is announced as coach.

      FIFY

      If that happens I'll make the rest of this thread look like a warm up.

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      #5505

      @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

      I can't believe people have the energy to keep this up every day. Pace yourself. You'll need that energy once Schmit Hammett is announced as coach.

      FIFY

      If that happens I'll make the rest of this thread look like a warm up.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I can't believe people have the energy to keep this up every day. Pace yourself. You'll need that energy once Schmit Hammett is announced as coach.

        FIFY

        If that happens I'll make the rest of this thread look like a warm up.

        f8354c3d-1666-4ccc-9138-911be972fb5d-image.png

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

        I can't believe people have the energy to keep this up every day. Pace yourself. You'll need that energy once Schmit Hammett is announced as coach.

        FIFY

        If that happens I'll make the rest of this thread look like a warm up.

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        • canefanC canefan

          @nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

          Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

          Fern: FAILURE

          NZ of all nations should understand how hard it is to win RWCs. After all it took us 24 years between cup wins #1 and #2

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          wrote on last edited by Crucial
          #5507

          @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

          Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

          Fern: FAILURE

          NZ of all nations should understand how hard it is to win RWCs. After all it took us 24 years between cup wins #1 and #2

          Can I save this for when we dip out in the quarters?
          Schmidt took two Ireland teams that were on hot streaks to World Cups and never made it into the top four.
          He did a great job getting the team up the rankings, winning 6Ns etc but couldn’t get performances when it counted.
          His successor has improved his team.
          I’m not quite sure why some here think he is what we need.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

            Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

            Fern: FAILURE

            NZ of all nations should understand how hard it is to win RWCs. After all it took us 24 years between cup wins #1 and #2

            Can I save this for when we dip out in the quarters?
            Schmidt took two Ireland teams that were on hot streaks to World Cups and never made it into the top four.
            He did a great job getting the team up the rankings, winning 6Ns etc but couldn’t get performances when it counted.
            His successor has improved his team.
            I’m not quite sure why some here think he is what we need.

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            #5508

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

            Schmidt obviously has some good qualities as a coach but he is also a coach with two 'failures' at RWCs.

            Schmidt: coaches side to number 1 in world.

            Fern: FAILURE

            NZ of all nations should understand how hard it is to win RWCs. After all it took us 24 years between cup wins #1 and #2

            Can I save this for when we dip out in the quarters?
            Schmidt took two Ireland teams that were on hot streaks to World Cups and never made it into the top four.
            He did a great job getting the team up the rankings, winning 6Ns etc but couldn’t get performances when it counted.
            His successor has improved his team.
            I’m not quite sure why some here think he is what we need.

            If we get bounced in the QF I will be disappointed but not surprised

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              The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!

              But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!

                But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.

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                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!

                But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.

                I'd be happy with either but with a serious review after 1 and 2 years and not just on the coaching, but also on what in NZ rugby is impacting AB success. Thought the latter should have happened last year.

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                  I heard a bit of talk today that Vern Cotter is aligned to Razor’s coaching team.
                  He does have some history as forward Coach at the Crusaders a wee way back.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    I heard a bit of talk today that Vern Cotter is aligned to Razor’s coaching team.
                    He does have some history as forward Coach at the Crusaders a wee way back.

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                    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    I heard a bit of talk today that Vern Cotter is aligned to Razor’s coaching team.
                    He does have some history as forward Coach at the Crusaders a wee way back.

                    Some international experience on his team would really help him out.

                    If Joseph had managed to get Schmidt and Brown, the interviews would be very interesting, but if Schmidt is going to go it alone, I can't see anyone but Razor getting the gig.

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                      Fuck Schmidt.

                      Fuck him very much.

                      I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                      Am therefore way on Team Razor.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        Fuck Schmidt.

                        Fuck him very much.

                        I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                        Am therefore way on Team Razor.

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                        @booboo good point, it seems every which way points to BOP/chiefs.... apart from Joseph.

                        Joseph it is.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          Fuck Schmidt.

                          Fuck him very much.

                          I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                          Am therefore way on Team Razor.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Fuck Schmidt.

                            Fuck him very much.

                            I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                            Am therefore way on Team Razor.

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                            #5516

                            @booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                            Fuck Schmidt.

                            Fuck him very much.

                            I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                            Am therefore way on Team Razor.

                            Your selection rationale is probably more insightful than the NZRU.

                            Edited - cheers

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                            • F Frank

                              @booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              Fuck Schmidt.

                              Fuck him very much.

                              I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                              Am therefore way on Team Razor.

                              Your selection rationale is probably more insightful than the NZRU.

                              Edited - cheers

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                              @Frank said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                              NFRFU

                              It's actually just the NRU

                              https://www.facebook.com/nlrugby

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                I can't believe people have the energy to keep this up every day. Pace yourself. You'll need that energy once Schmit is announced as coach.

                                You forgot the big ticket assistant.

                                I hope it's Rachel Riley.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    Fuck Schmidt.

                                    Fuck him very much.

                                    I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                                    Am therefore way on Team Razor.

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                                    @booboo said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                    Fuck Schmidt.

                                    Fuck him very much.

                                    I met him in my teenage years and as a result care for him very little.

                                    Am therefore way on Team Razor.

                                    #nevermeetyourheroes

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                      @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                      In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                      Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
                                      Carlos Spencer maybe...

                                      And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?

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                                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                        The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!

                                        But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.

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                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                        The problem with Schmit's Irish teams was that their highly attritional game plan made it hard for them to back up 2 huge games. They'd effectively blown their load against France in 2015 and the preceeding 3 years had taken their toll in 2019. They had nothing left in the tank. Not conducive at all to tournament rugby. He wouldn't have to do that with the ABs and there are certainly elements from those Irish teams that would be nice to see in the ABs. Some forward muscle for starters!

                                        But I don't believe for a second he'll be head coach. How can you sell that to the NZ rugby public? Unless they discover a decomposed corpse in his car or he badly injures himself breakdancing, it will be Razor.

                                        Ohh schnapp!
                                        But the imagery is a little claustrophobic and worrying...
                                        "blown their load ... had nothing left in the tank."

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                          @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                          Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
                                          Carlos Spencer maybe...

                                          And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                          @No-Quarter said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                                          In all seriousness though I'd be really happy if Schmidt got the role, he's my preferred candidate.

                                          Really? I'm a bit worried that Joe is a bit fixed in his ways. Short term he could be a real tonic but longer term he'd need an inventive backs coach wouldn't he?
                                          Carlos Spencer maybe...

                                          And that brings us to who would Joe pick at 10?

                                          The way it is now (and it is very early) DMac has shown he can be the kind of steady influence that we've been missing at 10. I hope whoever is coaching come RWC23 time, DMac is in the frame

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