All Blacks World Cup bolters
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Weber and Mackenzie subbed on at same time
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Stevenson will be a bolter if he makes it. The coaches didn’t rate him good enough for the ABXV.
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@Nepia I doubt they're still of the same view, considering he was excellent when he played for the ABXV.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Nepia I doubt they're still of the same view, considering he was excellent when he played for the ABXV.
He was excellent at times for the chiefs, then the Maori and then NPC so not sure I’m that confident.
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@Machpants LF is a lot more at risk
@Duluth said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Machpants LF is a lot more at risk
Telea was basically the one who took LF's spot. So if Stevenson is a bolter, and they retain Telea, then it should be Clarke's spot that's on the line.
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Stevenson and Roigard for me so far.
@Canes4life so we have Smith, Christie, Fakatava, Roigard, Weber, Perenara. Seems like a strong position. Who misses out? I think they’ll go with Smith, Christie (not my choice) with one other. For me Fakatava if they choose Christie but who knows?
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@Canes4life so we have Smith, Christie, Fakatava, Roigard, Weber, Perenara. Seems like a strong position. Who misses out? I think they’ll go with Smith, Christie (not my choice) with one other. For me Fakatava if they choose Christie but who knows?
@DMack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Canes4life so we have Smith, Christie, Fakatava, Roigard, Weber, Perenara. Seems like a strong position. Who misses out? I think they’ll go with Smith, Christie (not my choice) with one other. For me Fakatava if they choose Christie but who knows?
Christie stepped up to Test rugby well but seems to have regressed a bit speed-wise. Probably still OK to finish a match, but I'd be wary of his starting one.
Problem for me is lack of experience starting at 9 in a Test. Perenara might have the edge on that, but if Roigard continues his form and Foster & co think he'll handle the transition, I think he'll be in the squad.
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@DMack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Canes4life so we have Smith, Christie, Fakatava, Roigard, Weber, Perenara. Seems like a strong position. Who misses out? I think they’ll go with Smith, Christie (not my choice) with one other. For me Fakatava if they choose Christie but who knows?
Christie stepped up to Test rugby well but seems to have regressed a bit speed-wise. Probably still OK to finish a match, but I'd be wary of his starting one.
Problem for me is lack of experience starting at 9 in a Test. Perenara might have the edge on that, but if Roigard continues his form and Foster & co think he'll handle the transition, I think he'll be in the squad.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
Perenara might have the edge on that,
Nooooooooo
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
Perenara might have the edge on that,
Nooooooooo
@nzzp said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
Perenara might have the edge on that,
Nooooooooo
I hope not too but the relative lack of experience at 9 is worrying and there isn't much time...
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@DMack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Canes4life so we have Smith, Christie, Fakatava, Roigard, Weber, Perenara. Seems like a strong position. Who misses out? I think they’ll go with Smith, Christie (not my choice) with one other. For me Fakatava if they choose Christie but who knows?
Christie stepped up to Test rugby well but seems to have regressed a bit speed-wise. Probably still OK to finish a match, but I'd be wary of his starting one.
Problem for me is lack of experience starting at 9 in a Test. Perenara might have the edge on that, but if Roigard continues his form and Foster & co think he'll handle the transition, I think he'll be in the squad.
@Victor-Meldrew I get the experience thing. But I don’t think we are good enough at the moment to play it safe. Weber/Perenara staying at home (aka an hr away at some French beach) and coming in if Smith is injured suits me. So it leaves room for a bolter. If Fakatava or Roigard, whatever. But we won’t beat Ireland or France by being predictable.
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@Victor-Meldrew I get the experience thing. But I don’t think we are good enough at the moment to play it safe. Weber/Perenara staying at home (aka an hr away at some French beach) and coming in if Smith is injured suits me. So it leaves room for a bolter. If Fakatava or Roigard, whatever. But we won’t beat Ireland or France by being predictable.
@DMack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Victor-Meldrew I get the experience thing. But I don’t think we are good enough at the moment to play it safe. Weber/Perenara staying at home (aka an hr away at some French beach) and coming in if Smith is injured suits me. So it leaves room for a bolter. If Fakatava or Roigard, whatever. But we won’t beat Ireland or France by being predictable.
Oh, I don't think we have any option other than to do that, but it's an area of real concern for me. Fakatava's injury and lack of games for, say, Roigard to be blooded is a real problem
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If we look at the 2019 RWC squad there wasn't an uncapped bolter like NMS in 2015. The closest to bolters were Jacobson and Moli, who debuted in Arg before the squad was announced. Weber also came back from the cold.
Edit: NMS played 2 tests before the RWC as well.
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@Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year
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@Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year
Yeah, Reece might be the closest in that squad, but he also started in 3 tests before the RWC squad was announced. Maybe the days of unexpectedly selecting an uncapped player for a RWC is over in the professional era.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:
@Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year
Yeah, Reece might be the closest in that squad, but he also started in 3 tests before the RWC squad was announced. Maybe the days of unexpectedly selecting an uncapped player for a RWC is over in the professional era.
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@Bovidae Sevu Reece was a bolter in 2019, wasn't even on a full super contract at the start of that year
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@Bovidae Shaun Stevenson a certainty if Will Jordan is out, even if he is not he would still add some electrifying extra speed.
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Only seen him play a little bit, but if Peter Lakai can get some decent SR game time, he could be one to consider as a bolter in a month or two.
