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    I don't get why people have to grandstand so much about pineapple on pizza. It's not like it's marmite / oysters etc where people who hate it, truly hate it.

    My kids LOVE an Hawaiian pizza and I'll happily nick a slice. If it's not for you, it's not for you. Move on, and let my kids be happy.

    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande my all-time fav pizza:

    Andreas  /  Jul 29, 2021

    Authentic Pizza Diavola Recipe: Hot and Delicious - The Pizza Heaven

    Authentic Pizza Diavola Recipe: Hot and Delicious - The Pizza Heaven

    Pizza Diavola is a classic,,delicious Italian pizza that will spice up your pizza party! It's easy to make in a few simple steps.

    Totally agree! Best combination of flavours for me.

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    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @dogmeat Agree on pineapple absolutely. And too many ingredients.

    I know it's probably an unpopular opinion, but I also hate seafood on pizza

    I’m in agreement here. A pizza HAS to have tomato sauce and it HAS to have mozzarella cheese. Seafood is not a good combo with that.

    That's like saying a good song HAS to be in C and HAS to be in 4/4 time. If that's all you want out of your pizza that's fine, but you're missing out on some spectacular eating.

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    @MajorRage said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    I don't get why people have to grandstand so much about pineapple on pizza. It's not like it's marmite / oysters etc where people who hate it, truly hate it.

    My kids LOVE an Hawaiian pizza and I'll happily nick a slice. If it's not for you, it's not for you. Move on, and let my kids be happy.

    Thanks. I was trying to find a way to say the same thing.

    Pineapple on Pizza Is Actually Great, if You Do It Right

    Edit: sorry that preview video is a waste of time. The article is what you're after.

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    @delicatessen said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @dogmeat Agree on pineapple absolutely. And too many ingredients.

    I know it's probably an unpopular opinion, but I also hate seafood on pizza

    I’m in agreement here. A pizza HAS to have tomato sauce and it HAS to have mozzarella cheese. Seafood is not a good combo with that.

    That's like saying a good song HAS to be in C and HAS to be in 4/4 time. If that's all you want out of your pizza that's fine, but you're missing out on some spectacular eating.

    Not at all it is like saying a good song HAS to have notes nd HAs to be in time. You then add all sorts of other things to make it complete, but if you add the wrong things, you get a shit song.

    I like many different pizzas but seafood is not one of then due to the incompatibility (IMO) with said tomato and cheese.

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    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @delicatessen said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @dogmeat Agree on pineapple absolutely. And too many ingredients.

    I know it's probably an unpopular opinion, but I also hate seafood on pizza

    I’m in agreement here. A pizza HAS to have tomato sauce and it HAS to have mozzarella cheese. Seafood is not a good combo with that.

    That's like saying a good song HAS to be in C and HAS to be in 4/4 time. If that's all you want out of your pizza that's fine, but you're missing out on some spectacular eating.

    Not at all it is like saying a good song HAS to have notes nd HAs to be in time. You then add all sorts of other things to make it complete, but if you add the wrong things, you get a shit song.

    I like many different pizzas but seafood is not one of then due to the incompatibility (IMO) with said tomato and cheese.

    I don't quite follow your argument. Being in time and having notes is what makes it a song. Tomato and mozzarella are not what makes pizza pizza.

    Have a scroll thru this. https://www.foodandwine.com/travel/europe/italy/pizzas-in-italy

    There's a surprising (to me) amount of pizza that lacks one or both of your crucial ingredients. Would you not class them as pizza? Doth not your glands salivate?

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    @delicatessen said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @delicatessen said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @dogmeat Agree on pineapple absolutely. And too many ingredients.

    I know it's probably an unpopular opinion, but I also hate seafood on pizza

    I’m in agreement here. A pizza HAS to have tomato sauce and it HAS to have mozzarella cheese. Seafood is not a good combo with that.

    That's like saying a good song HAS to be in C and HAS to be in 4/4 time. If that's all you want out of your pizza that's fine, but you're missing out on some spectacular eating.

    Not at all it is like saying a good song HAS to have notes nd HAs to be in time. You then add all sorts of other things to make it complete, but if you add the wrong things, you get a shit song.

    I like many different pizzas but seafood is not one of then due to the incompatibility (IMO) with said tomato and cheese.

    I don't quite follow your argument. Being in time and having notes is what makes it a song.

    Agreed. My point though was it doesn’t have to be in C and in 4/4. However a poor simile based on a poor simile 😀

    Tomato and mozzarella are not what makes pizza pizza.

    I completely disagree. If these ingredients are not present it is just stuff on a pizza dough base.

    Have a scroll thru this. https://www.foodandwine.com/travel/europe/italy/pizzas-in-italy

    There's a surprising (to me) amount of pizza that lacks one or both of your crucial ingredients. Would you not class them as pizza? Doth not your glands salivate?

    Interesting article but to answer your two questions:

    Some I would not class as pizza no matter what the menu might say.

    and

    Yes I am salivating and would gladly eat most of those.

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    My 2 cents on the seafood pizza discussion. You can keep your prawns, mussels, clams etc - but anchovies on a pizza are sublime.

    I like the Pizza Diavola recipe @voodoo posted but would be tempted to swap out the olives (and I love olives) for an anchovy umami hit.

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    Why is everyone talking about pizza as if it is one thing?

    The type of pizza originally being discussed has very 'strict' rules around the ingredients, methods etc and that is to preserve what is a pretty damn perfect combination and finished product. Get it right and you won't be disappointed.

    Of course there is diversity in then taking the concept of baking a dough with toppings and there can be equally amazing results. Difference is that when no rules apply then there is no consistency. Can be brilliant, can be average.

    Pros and cons with both but there is no 'one pizza'

    Eat/cook what you like. I do know though that when I tried a fully authenticated Associazione Vera Pizza Napoletana pizza it was a wow moment.

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    @Crucial said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    Why is everyone talking about pizza as if it is one thing?

    Doh! Because - Fern....

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    If just talking baked dough with topping can I throw the good old Turkish Pide in the mix?

    Spiced Lamb on a dough base? Yes please.

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    @voodoo said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Catogrande my all-time fav pizza:

    Andreas  /  Jul 29, 2021

    Authentic Pizza Diavola Recipe: Hot and Delicious - The Pizza Heaven

    Authentic Pizza Diavola Recipe: Hot and Delicious - The Pizza Heaven

    Pizza Diavola is a classic,,delicious Italian pizza that will spice up your pizza party! It's easy to make in a few simple steps.

    Remove the olives and add anchovies and that's all you need on a pizza.

    Yes, I can't stand olives, yuck!

    Edit, just saw @dogmeat response and couldn't agree more.

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    @dogmeat @RoninWC Agreed, I’d be picking those olives off. I also love anchovies, salty little fuckers, just gotta be careful they don’t overpower everything else.

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    A variant I can’t stand is a calzone. The dough to topping/filling ratio always seems wrong

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    @Crucial Yup

    Pide is so much more forgiving than pizza too. I'd have some labneh drizzled over the lamb.

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    @dogmeat said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Crucial Yup

    Pide is so much more forgiving than pizza too. I'd have some labneh drizzled over the lamb.

    How do you drizzle labneh?

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    @Crucial

    Fair point - asshole. 🙂

    Forget to strain the yoghurt?

    a crumble then... what is the right noun?

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    @dogmeat said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Crucial

    Fair point - asshole. 🙂

    Forget to strain the yoghurt?

    a crumble then... what is the right noun?

    Blob?

    Edit: I tend to make my own and strain it quite a bit until it an be rolled into small balls.

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    @Crucial said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    Edit: I tend to make my own and strain it quite a bit until it an be rolled into small balls

    same

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    @Crucial said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @MajorRage said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @nzzp said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @MajorRage yes, fairly chewy - but immense flavour.

    try this one - they use it at Farina 60% hydration and a lot of salt.

    I kneaded for 5 minutes in our stand mixer.

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    Cheers ... What sort of yeast do you know? Farina is a flour brand, right?

    I think this may be the key thing.

    Not a brand. Farina really just means ground grain ie flour
    The is some Australian stuff that uses the term loosely but what you are after is Italian 00 Farina with is ground from a hard (usually winter) wheat.
    This makes the best traditional pizza dough.
    Slow fermentation with either a yeast product or natural starter. Either works. Let time do the development rather than kneading. Like sourdough, you only need to doa few stretch and folds to line up the gluten strands.

    Ok, flour sorted. Any tips on yeast? I've been looking for fresh bread yeast, but it's looking impossible to come by.

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    @MajorRage said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @Crucial said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @MajorRage said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @nzzp said in Recipes, home grown goodness, BBQing and food stuff:

    @MajorRage yes, fairly chewy - but immense flavour.

    try this one - they use it at Farina 60% hydration and a lot of salt.

    I kneaded for 5 minutes in our stand mixer.

    559003d5-889b-4631-8635-10a59ef8dab1-image.png

    Cheers ... What sort of yeast do you know? Farina is a flour brand, right?

    I think this may be the key thing.

    Not a brand. Farina really just means ground grain ie flour
    The is some Australian stuff that uses the term loosely but what you are after is Italian 00 Farina with is ground from a hard (usually winter) wheat.
    This makes the best traditional pizza dough.
    Slow fermentation with either a yeast product or natural starter. Either works. Let time do the development rather than kneading. Like sourdough, you only need to doa few stretch and folds to line up the gluten strands.

    Ok, flour sorted. Any tips on yeast? I've been looking for fresh bread yeast, but it's looking impossible to come by.

    bakers will often just give you some - try bakery at your local supermarket even.

    Otherwise I just use dried yeast- they're pretty generic, something like this
    f91327ed-b250-41d4-a3fe-3e8c676d548e-image.png

    bakels do one as well

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