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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @BerniesCorner https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/photos/a.10150098825782147/10160804237242147/
    Dallas Macleod named MOTM surely on current form he must be in with a chance.

    I would take Proctor before picking McLeod. Proctor is starting to play some useful footy.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

    @BerniesCorner https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/photos/a.10150098825782147/10160804237242147/
    Dallas Macleod named MOTM surely on current form he must be in with a chance.

    I would take Proctor before picking McLeod. Proctor is starting to play some useful footy.

    Nankivell, Poihipi, TUJ, and probably about 2-3 more ahead of McLeod at least eh.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      I’ll go against the trend in this thread and actually suggest a bolter - Heem

      He’s consistently done a good job for the Blues subbing on at 11, 12, 13 or 14. He’s in the picture as he made the AB xv last year

      You need utilities in a relatively small RWC squad. A specialist bench option. That role is currently taken by Ennor

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      @Duluth said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      I’ll go against the trend in this thread and actually suggest a bolter - Heem

      He’s consistently done a good job for the Blues subbing on at 11, 12, 13 or 14. He’s in the picture as he made the AB xv last year

      You need utilities in a relatively small RWC squad. A specialist bench option. That role is currently taken by Ennor

      At last. Someone who actually knows the definition of bolter. Heem would fit that category.

      Whatever happens the selectors need to take a risk imo. If we limit ourselves to players already capped we are not winning anything. The likes of BB etc should be jettisoned. He’s not a 10 at international level and he’s no longer the best option at 15 either. He’ll always have the 2015 final.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @BerniesCorner https://www.facebook.com/crusadersrugby/photos/a.10150098825782147/10160804237242147/
        Dallas Macleod named MOTM surely on current form he must be in with a chance.

        I would take Proctor before picking McLeod. Proctor is starting to play some useful footy.

        Nankivell, Poihipi, TUJ, and probably about 2-3 more ahead of McLeod at least eh.

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        @Bones Nankivell is going overseas so he is out of contention. McLeod is part of a Crusader team which if he can play himself into some more consistant form could well be in contention. TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes.

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          @Bones Nankivell is going overseas so he is out of contention. McLeod is part of a Crusader team which if he can play himself into some more consistant form could well be in contention. TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes.

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          @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

          part of a Crusader team

          That's actually a very good point.

          TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes.

          He's definitely not.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

            part of a Crusader team

            That's actually a very good point.

            TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes.

            He's definitely not.

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            @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

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              @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

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              @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

              @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

              "TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes."
              -I'm confused as to what you meant.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

                "TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes."
                -I'm confused as to what you meant.

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                @nostrildamus my guess is replace T with P.

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                  @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

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                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                  @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

                  ...you seem to be trying to correct @Bones....when he was quoting you

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                    @Bones PUJ Hurricanes. TUJ Highlanders

                    "TUJ is coming back soon for the Hurricanes."
                    -I'm confused as to what you meant.

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                    @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

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                      @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

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                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                      @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

                      Cutting to the chase, are you talking about PUJ returning to the Canes or TUJ returning to the Highlanders?
                      As they are both often injured, I can only guess Bones thinks you mean PUJ is returning..

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                        @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

                        Cutting to the chase, are you talking about PUJ returning to the Canes or TUJ returning to the Highlanders?
                        As they are both often injured, I can only guess Bones thinks you mean PUJ is returning..

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                        @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

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                          @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

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                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                          @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

                          The tough thing for PUJ will be getting game time outside of AB rest weeks. Proctor has really improved this year and Sullivan has just come back.

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                            @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                            @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

                            I could be wrong but even TUJ seemed to be on the radar. I liked PUJ in black but as @KiwiMurph noted his competition and I suspect even his own Super coaches don't favour him (or at least seemed to seldom play him, and at 13, where he belongs).

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

                              The tough thing for PUJ will be getting game time outside of AB rest weeks. Proctor has really improved this year and Sullivan has just come back.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                              @nostrildamus PUJ, he was the one talked about as a future All Black last year even by the coaches. He is also in a form team which will help a lot.

                              The tough thing for PUJ will be getting game time outside of AB rest weeks. Proctor has really improved this year and Sullivan has just come back.

                              He made the ABs as a 13 in 2020. Since then he's had 5 starts at centre at SR level (4 in 2021 and only 1 last year)

                              He really hasn't been playing enough in his best position. He's had more time at 12 recently than 13

                              For him to make it he would need some great form in the midfield very soon and probably some time as an outside back too. Then he could sneak into the utility role of a midfielder who can cover out wide.

                              At least most people would call him a bolter unlike many of the names in this thread

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

                                Cutting to the chase, are you talking about PUJ returning to the Canes or TUJ returning to the Highlanders?
                                As they are both often injured, I can only guess Bones thinks you mean PUJ is returning..

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

                                Cutting to the chase, are you talking about PUJ returning to the Canes or TUJ returning to the Highlanders?
                                As they are both often injured, I can only guess Bones thinks you mean PUJ is returning..

                                and TUJ has managed to put together 6 games in a row (including pre season) and i thought was a bit of a stand out on the weekend for the landers

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  @nostrildamus I got confused about which twin played for which franchise.

                                  Cutting to the chase, are you talking about PUJ returning to the Canes or TUJ returning to the Highlanders?
                                  As they are both often injured, I can only guess Bones thinks you mean PUJ is returning..

                                  and TUJ has managed to put together 6 games in a row (including pre season) and i thought was a bit of a stand out on the weekend for the landers

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                                  @Kiwiwomble Seems as though the Abs have a bit of depth in the centres, QT is supposed to return at some stage. Saders have been operating without their first choice centres.

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                                    @Kiwiwomble Seems as though the Abs have a bit of depth in the centres, QT is supposed to return at some stage. Saders have been operating without their first choice centres.

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                                    @SBW1 i think we all know fozzie will go with who is know, even if theyre just back from injury or something, but i would love to see a couple purely picked on form

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                                      @SBW1 i think we all know fozzie will go with who is know, even if theyre just back from injury or something, but i would love to see a couple purely picked on form

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                      @SBW1 i think we all know fozzie will go with who is know, even if theyre just back from injury or something, but i would love to see a couple purely picked on form

                                      That's the balancing act isn't it? Pick players in form that may be currently outperforming those with experience or count on the experienced players to perform when they need to.
                                      Super always shows out some players going hard from game one trying to get noticed but falling away once the international season comes.
                                      I do agree though, that if a current selection looks to be really flat or is being consistently out played AND there is a form alternative then that alternative deserves a crack.
                                      We are usually looking at outside backs, especially wingers, in this regard.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        @SBW1 i think we all know fozzie will go with who is know, even if theyre just back from injury or something, but i would love to see a couple purely picked on form

                                        That's the balancing act isn't it? Pick players in form that may be currently outperforming those with experience or count on the experienced players to perform when they need to.
                                        Super always shows out some players going hard from game one trying to get noticed but falling away once the international season comes.
                                        I do agree though, that if a current selection looks to be really flat or is being consistently out played AND there is a form alternative then that alternative deserves a crack.
                                        We are usually looking at outside backs, especially wingers, in this regard.

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                                        @Crucial In seasons past players got the opportunity to shine at international level against some of the easier international sides, which has been a great way of introducing depth. The only backline position of concern is our depth at No.10. The Rebels have unearthed a good one. I am hoping we get a few more quality candidates before the end of the season.

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                                          @Crucial In seasons past players got the opportunity to shine at international level against some of the easier international sides, which has been a great way of introducing depth. The only backline position of concern is our depth at No.10. The Rebels have unearthed a good one. I am hoping we get a few more quality candidates before the end of the season.

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                                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                          @Crucial In seasons past players got the opportunity to shine at international level against some of the easier international sides, which has been a great way of introducing depth. The only backline position of concern is our depth at No.10. The Rebels have unearthed a good one. I am hoping we get a few more quality candidates before the end of the season.

                                          RM, BB and DMac are the options there with SP in reserve. I don't see too much position concern there.

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