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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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    Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

    Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

    Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

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      What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

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      • FrankF Frank

        Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

        Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

        Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

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        @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

        Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

        Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

        Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

        I doubt Ryan would be so short-sighted but if true that would be a shame, the forwards noticeably improved when he joined the AB coaches.

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        • FrankF Frank

          Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

          Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

          Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

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          @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

          Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

          Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

          That word says it all.

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          • FrankF Frank

            Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

            Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

            Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

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            @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            Wonder with that gossip about Ryan snubbing Razor once he got the AB gig and Razor mentioning the word 'loyalty' in his coaching team that he might bypass Jason Ryan.

            Seems unlikely, but wondering if it is a possibility.

            Any sauces from the Canterbury guys here?

            Not sure about were that went,Rumour says they are all good now.
            But not 100% on that.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

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              @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

              What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

              and it was only a mentor role, always seemed like just finding him something to do until a more permanent role came up

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                @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

                and it was only a mentor role, always seemed like just finding him something to do until a more permanent role came up

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                @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

                and it was only a mentor role, always seemed like just finding him something to do until a more permanent role came up

                Might have been waiting to see how things shake out with the new AB coaching gig, so he could step in to a Super head role. Looks like at least two head coach positions will be available (assuming Razor takes one of Panadol or Holland).

                I'd prefer not to lose him now that he is finally selecting some players in the right place (e.g., Dmac 10, Stevenson 15) but McMillan could be a smokey to be involved, in which case it could be potentially three jobs.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

                  and it was only a mentor role, always seemed like just finding him something to do until a more permanent role came up

                  Might have been waiting to see how things shake out with the new AB coaching gig, so he could step in to a Super head role. Looks like at least two head coach positions will be available (assuming Razor takes one of Panadol or Holland).

                  I'd prefer not to lose him now that he is finally selecting some players in the right place (e.g., Dmac 10, Stevenson 15) but McMillan could be a smokey to be involved, in which case it could be potentially three jobs.

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                  @gt12 yeah, good way to re familiarise himself with the lay of the land

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                    @gt12 yeah, good way to re familiarise himself with the lay of the land

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                    @Kiwiwomble One thing is for sure there is going to be a real vacum left in the Super Franchises with coaches leaving for the All Black spot. With the possible signing of Brad Shields, it would be good to have a slight reversal of our player exodus.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      What about Chris Boyd? His appointment with the Highlanders was for one year only.

                      and it was only a mentor role, always seemed like just finding him something to do until a more permanent role came up

                      Might have been waiting to see how things shake out with the new AB coaching gig, so he could step in to a Super head role. Looks like at least two head coach positions will be available (assuming Razor takes one of Panadol or Holland).

                      I'd prefer not to lose him now that he is finally selecting some players in the right place (e.g., Dmac 10, Stevenson 15) but McMillan could be a smokey to be involved, in which case it could be potentially three jobs.

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                      @gt12 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      I'd prefer not to lose him now that he is finally selecting some players in the right place (e.g., Dmac 10, Stevenson 15) but McMillan could be a smokey to be involved, in which case it could be potentially three jobs.

                      McMillan might be better off sticking with the Chiefs as a head coach.

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                        I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

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                          @Kiwiwomble One thing is for sure there is going to be a real vacum left in the Super Franchises with coaches leaving for the All Black spot. With the possible signing of Brad Shields, it would be good to have a slight reversal of our player exodus.

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                          @SBW1 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                          @Kiwiwomble One thing is for sure there is going to be a real vacum left in the Super Franchises with coaches leaving for the All Black spot. With the possible signing of Brad Shields, it would be good to have a slight reversal of our player exodus.

                          A good problem to have, finally having super rugby coach's step up to the AB level instead of just heading overseas.

                          The "must have international experience" line always bugged me as it basically guaranteed that our best and brightest rugby coaching talent "had to" go overseas and we'd just hope they'd come back at some stage.

                          Exporting all your best talent out to the opposition doesn't seem like the smartest development pathway for an organization to take...

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                            I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

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                            @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                            Well that shows supreme confidence from the board - though I don't know if I should feel reassured or if I should burst out laughing.

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                              @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                              Well that shows supreme confidence from the board - though I don't know if I should feel reassured or if I should burst out laughing.

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                              @Windows97 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                              Well that shows supreme confidence from the board - though I don't know if I should feel reassured or if I should burst out laughing.

                              Since NZR ditched the assistant coaches, hopefully they've got the balls to do the same if razor flops as bad as foster has

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                                I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

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                                @Machpants you'd like to think that they have some KPI checks set in the contract (cos you think there would be lessons learnt from the last 4 years...)

                                An interview with Robinson on TV the other morning they were asking about KPIs (was a silly question as they were asking specific KPIs about winning) and he refused to discuss the KPIs in his contract.

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                                  @Windows97 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                                  Well that shows supreme confidence from the board - though I don't know if I should feel reassured or if I should burst out laughing.

                                  Since NZR ditched the assistant coaches, hopefully they've got the balls to do the same if razor flops as bad as foster has

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                                  @Machpants Considering they didn't have the balls to sack Foster Razor's record with the AB's would have to be so horrendously poor for him to get the boot it wouldn't be worth comprehending.

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                                    I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

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                                    @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                                    personally i think that's a good thing

                                    The two year review rarely results in a change, it just gives the fucking media something to speculate over.

                                    You can still fire him if he sucks, you just don't have a set date where the media will try to make a decision for you

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                                      @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      I just clicked that razors four years doesn't have a mid way check, it's a four year contract. That's the first in a while.

                                      personally i think that's a good thing

                                      The two year review rarely results in a change, it just gives the fucking media something to speculate over.

                                      You can still fire him if he sucks, you just don't have a set date where the media will try to make a decision for you

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                                      @mariner4life I agree entirely with that statement.

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                                        @SBW1 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @Kiwiwomble One thing is for sure there is going to be a real vacum left in the Super Franchises with coaches leaving for the All Black spot. With the possible signing of Brad Shields, it would be good to have a slight reversal of our player exodus.

                                        A good problem to have, finally having super rugby coach's step up to the AB level instead of just heading overseas.

                                        The "must have international experience" line always bugged me as it basically guaranteed that our best and brightest rugby coaching talent "had to" go overseas and we'd just hope they'd come back at some stage.

                                        Exporting all your best talent out to the opposition doesn't seem like the smartest development pathway for an organization to take...

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                                        @Windows97 I think we need to either keep Leon at the Blues or include him as an assistant. It would be terrible loosing him to Scotland after coaching a development All Black squad, he has too much inside knowledge.

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                                          @Windows97 I think we need to either keep Leon at the Blues or include him as an assistant. It would be terrible loosing him to Scotland after coaching a development All Black squad, he has too much inside knowledge.

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                                          @SBW1 you may get your wish.

                                          https://mobile.twitter.com/JamieWall2/status/1639064248562356224

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