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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @MN5

    Yes, RW is more well rounded. Whittaker's highlights are mostly striking but he has a wrestling base. He can test Pereira in other ways.

    Adesanya is a kickboxer with good takedown defence. Pereira is a kickboxer whose fights in the UFC have basically been kickboxing fights

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    MN5
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    #1244

    @Duluth said in UFC:

    @MN5

    Yes, RW is more well rounded. Whittaker's highlights are mostly striking but he has a wrestling base. He can test Pereira in other ways.

    Adesanya is a kickboxer with good takedown defence. Pereira is a kickboxer whose fights in the UFC have basically been kickboxing fights

    Interesting. I’d assume Whitaker would lose to Pereira in a similar vein as he lost to Izzy.

    I do get what you mean though, the old ‘styles make fights’ adage

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    • MN5M MN5

      @Duluth said in UFC:

      @MN5

      Yes, RW is more well rounded. Whittaker's highlights are mostly striking but he has a wrestling base. He can test Pereira in other ways.

      Adesanya is a kickboxer with good takedown defence. Pereira is a kickboxer whose fights in the UFC have basically been kickboxing fights

      Interesting. I’d assume Whitaker would lose to Pereira in a similar vein as he lost to Izzy.

      I do get what you mean though, the old ‘styles make fights’ adage

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      Duluth
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      #1245

      @MN5 said in UFC:

      ‘styles make fights’

      Yeah and there's a lot of questions about Pereira. They rushed him because they knew he matched up well with Adesanya. How good is his gas tank when he's in a clinch battle? Can he work his way back to his feet etc

      Who knows? Maybe he KO's everyone else and it doesn't matter

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @MN5 said in UFC:

        ‘styles make fights’

        Yeah and there's a lot of questions about Pereira. They rushed him because they knew he matched up well with Adesanya. How good is his gas tank when he's in a clinch battle? Can he work his way back to his feet etc

        Who knows? Maybe he KO's everyone else and it doesn't matter

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        MN5
        wrote on last edited by
        #1246

        @Duluth said in UFC:

        @MN5 said in UFC:

        ‘styles make fights’

        Yeah and there's a lot of questions about Pereira. They rushed him because they knew he matched up well with Adesanya. How good is his gas tank when he's in a clinch battle? Can he work his way back to his feet etc

        Who knows? Maybe he KO's everyone else and it doesn't matter

        Yeah fair call. Just cos fighter A beat fighter B and fighter B beat fighter C doesn’t guarantee that fighter A beats fighter C.

        Pereira just seems to have similar strengths to Izzy ( more so I would have thought before todays fight )

        Joe Rogan and the gang certainly talked him up as a huge challenge but then again this is hardly unusual for them.

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          Duluth
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          #1247

          Volk watching the KO

          https://twitter.com/mmamircea/status/1644968370318589955?s=61&t=yrbdgyVSPqW0kVLD8ijMKA

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            Volk watching the KO

            https://twitter.com/mmamircea/status/1644968370318589955?s=61&t=yrbdgyVSPqW0kVLD8ijMKA

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            Kirwan
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            #1248

            @Duluth I think he was happy.

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              MiketheSnow
              wrote on last edited by MiketheSnow
              #1249

              Great night

              I was way off with nearly all my calls

              Kelvin looked great

              So too Gilbert

              Rodriguez played it so smart

              And great finishes from Holland and Font

              Then Izzy

              Boooooom

              UFC is the Greatest Show On Earth

              By a country mile

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                Great night

                I was way off with nearly all my calls

                Kelvin looked great

                So too Gilbert

                Rodriguez played it so smart

                And great finishes from Holland and Font

                Then Izzy

                Boooooom

                UFC is the Greatest Show On Earth

                By a country mile

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                MN5
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                #1250

                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                Great night

                I was way off with nearly all my calls

                Kelvin looked great

                So too Gilbert

                Rodriguez played it so smart

                And great finishes from Holland and Font

                Then Izzy

                Boooooom

                UFC is the Greatest Show On Earth

                By a country mile

                I reckon Bruce Buffer would be more spent than any of the fighters, his announcements are off the charts, I fully expect him to keel over at any moment.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  Amazing Rope a Dope ( or maybe that should be Cage a Dope ) from Izzy. Those punches came from nowhere but amazing KO power that I haven’t seen from him before.

                  What an incredible finish from him. Great set up for a third UFC fight too, every fighter needs a trilogy !

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                  Duluth
                  wrote on last edited by Duluth
                  #1251

                  @MN5 said in UFC:

                  KO power that I haven’t seen from him before

                  Just on that punch, Adesanya has rocked him with it several times before. Particularly in their second kickboxing fight

                  I went back and had a look at the end of the first round at UFC281. This video should be queued up for 5:34 Izzy lands almost the exact same punch and Pereira is out on his feet

                  UFC281 Pereira is saved by the bell goes on to win, UFC285 Izzy lands a follow up

                  Tiny margins

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @MN5 said in UFC:

                    KO power that I haven’t seen from him before

                    Just on that punch, Adesanya has rocked him with it several times before. Particularly in their second kickboxing fight

                    I went back and had a look at the end of the first round at UFC281. This video should be queued up for 5:34 Izzy lands almost the exact same punch and Pereira is out on his feet

                    UFC281 Pereira is saved by the bell goes on to win, UFC285 Izzy lands a follow up

                    Tiny margins

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                    MN5
                    wrote on last edited by MN5
                    #1252

                    @Duluth said in UFC:

                    @MN5 said in UFC:

                    KO power that I haven’t seen from him before

                    Just on that punch, Adesanya has rocked him with it several times before. Particularly in their second kickboxing fight

                    I went back and had a look at the end of the first round at UFC281. This video should be queued up for 5:34 Izzy lands almost the exact same punch and Pereira is out on his feet

                    UFC281 Pereira is saved by the bell goes on to win, UFC285 Izzy lands a follow up

                    Tiny margins

                    Indeed but they could have counted to twenty and he wouldn’t have gotten up in time I reckon.

                    Was watching with the old man and a mate and we compared it to Alis punch to knock out Liston ( as did Izzy himself )

                    Of course I believe he threw that fight but that’s another story.

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                      #1253

                      https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/sport/ufc-israel-adesanya-slammed-for-pathetic-act-toward-pereira-s-son/?fbclid=IwAR1XObrh_N2kbLv4iEgQJkXYFm6O6ELkTeNTmWo3HhCuB2iejjNGayQsS68

                      Righto, hardly “slammed”, the only thing pathetic is the New Zealand news “reporting” but thats not surprising.

                      Sounds like the little fluffybunny deserved it to me.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Duluth said in UFC:

                        @MN5 said in UFC:

                        ‘styles make fights’

                        Yeah and there's a lot of questions about Pereira. They rushed him because they knew he matched up well with Adesanya. How good is his gas tank when he's in a clinch battle? Can he work his way back to his feet etc

                        Who knows? Maybe he KO's everyone else and it doesn't matter

                        Yeah fair call. Just cos fighter A beat fighter B and fighter B beat fighter C doesn’t guarantee that fighter A beats fighter C.

                        Pereira just seems to have similar strengths to Izzy ( more so I would have thought before todays fight )

                        Joe Rogan and the gang certainly talked him up as a huge challenge but then again this is hardly unusual for them.

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                        muddyriver
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                        #1254

                        @MN5 Perreia is not a counter fighter. Izzy is the best Counterfighter, a long counter fighter with good takedown D is Rob Whittakers nemesis as he likes to blitz in from range despite his own length being very average.
                        Perreia pressures you with his cage control and immense power. More single shots until he gets you trapped.

                        It would not be an easy fight for rob, but if he get Pereiras Back early in a round he could really work him over. Rob Mixes it up very well, and he could KO him or submit him on the ground. Rob would have to avoid calf kicks at all costs.

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                          Duluth
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                          #1255

                          Slow motion of the KO

                          (Posted earlier but the YouTube link got taken down)

                          https://twitter.com/bloodyelbow/status/1645382409494380544?s=61&t=yrbdgyVSPqW0kVLD8ijMKA

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                            Duluth
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                            #1256

                            All that Whittaker v Pereira chat was pointless... Pereira just announced he's moving up to LHW

                            I see Bareman wants Adesanya to fight Hill for the LHW belt. Maybe the UFC will allow it because it will give time for something to develop at MW

                            Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              All that Whittaker v Pereira chat was pointless... Pereira just announced he's moving up to LHW

                              I see Bareman wants Adesanya to fight Hill for the LHW belt. Maybe the UFC will allow it because it will give time for something to develop at MW

                              Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

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                              MiketheSnow
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1257

                              @Duluth said in UFC:

                              All that Whittaker v Pereira chat was pointless... Pereira just announced he's moving up to LHW

                              I see Bareman wants Adesanya to fight Hill for the LHW belt. Maybe the UFC will allow it because it will give time for something to develop at MW

                              Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

                              Bo Nickal for Adesanya?

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @Duluth said in UFC:

                                All that Whittaker v Pereira chat was pointless... Pereira just announced he's moving up to LHW

                                I see Bareman wants Adesanya to fight Hill for the LHW belt. Maybe the UFC will allow it because it will give time for something to develop at MW

                                Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

                                Bo Nickal for Adesanya?

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                                Duluth
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1258

                                @MiketheSnow said in UFC:

                                Bo Nickal for Adesanya?

                                Eventually, but even if they fast track him thats 2-3 fights away.

                                Move Khamzat up a division?

                                The UFC wants a big event in Africa soon. I think they'll want Adesanya v Du Plessis to be the headline but it's hard to argue for him having a title fight without beating Whittaker

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  All that Whittaker v Pereira chat was pointless... Pereira just announced he's moving up to LHW

                                  I see Bareman wants Adesanya to fight Hill for the LHW belt. Maybe the UFC will allow it because it will give time for something to develop at MW

                                  Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

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                                  Duluth
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1259

                                  @Duluth said in UFC:

                                  Whittaker v Du Plessis for an interim belt?

                                  This fight is confirmed for UFC 290 in July. Not for an interim belt.. that may change depending on what Adesanya does next

                                  290 will have Hooker v Turner and probably Volk v Yair. A fun card

                                  I suspect they are going to let Adesanya go for the LHW belt. There were several MW fights confirmed this week, so the potential opponents are all busy now. Whittaker/Du Plessis, Hermansson/Allen, Vettori/Cannonier, Strickland/Magomedov

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                                    MiketheSnow
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                                    #1260

                                    UFC 288

                                    Some great match ups, and loads of FOTN contenders

                                    My victors in BOLD

                                    Holmes v Ribiero
                                    Hawes v Aliskerov
                                    Smith v Porter
                                    Rodriguez v Jandiroba
                                    Williams v Bedoya
                                    Nzechukwu v Clark
                                    Dober v Frevola
                                    Gracie v Jourdain
                                    Evloev v Lopes
                                    Andrade v Xiaonan
                                    Muhammad v Burns
                                    Sterling v Cejudo

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                                      Duluth
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1261

                                      Burns & Sterling in the last two fights

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                                        Duluth
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                                        #1262

                                        No ring rust from Cejudo

                                        A very close fight. I had it Cejudo 48-47

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          No ring rust from Cejudo

                                          A very close fight. I had it Cejudo 48-47

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                                          MiketheSnow
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                                          #1263

                                          @Duluth said in UFC:

                                          No ring rust from Cejudo

                                          A very close fight. I had it Cejudo 48-47

                                          Me too

                                          Belal is the epitome of non-flashy but man is he hard to beat

                                          Thought the Dober stoppage was premature

                                          Great debut from Lopes

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