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    @voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @paremata

    I’m a little perplexed. I mean, I get the revolt against the woke. I do. But it’s hardly an offensive ad. If I genuinely liked that beer, I sure as fuck wouldn’t stop drinking it because they got that dude to promote it. It’s not the worst ad, it’s hardly admonishing the existing drinkers, it’s just a light hearted stupid ad.
    If the the Australian society of slow-cooked lamb shoulders used him/her to promote lamb, I’m not stubborn enough to switch to mutton. Who fucking cares?

    Also, it’s still 4% beer right?

    The really weird stuff with that Mulvaney person is him advertising women's products like tampons and sports bras. Very bizarre advertising strategy.

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    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Very bizarre advertising strategy.

    Which is why I lean towards reasons that don't have anything to do with marketing. True believers and/or external pressure (CEI/ESG)

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    @Duluth said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Very bizarre advertising strategy.

    Which is why I lean towards reasons that don't have anything to do with marketing. True believers and/or external pressure (CEI/ESG)

    Agreed, there must be a tipping point though . If your business really starts to suffer and your competitors are able to take market share eventually you have to abandon this.

    Lee Fang did a great article about this pointing out a private prison has a higher esg than Tesla because it has DEI policies in place and posters about it all over the place .

    Edit, found it https://theintercept.com/2022/06/27/esg-funds-corporate-responsibility-dei/

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    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @paremata

    I’m a little perplexed. I mean, I get the revolt against the woke. I do. But it’s hardly an offensive ad. If I genuinely liked that beer, I sure as fuck wouldn’t stop drinking it because they got that dude to promote it. It’s not the worst ad, it’s hardly admonishing the existing drinkers, it’s just a light hearted stupid ad.
    If the the Australian society of slow-cooked lamb shoulders used him/her to promote lamb, I’m not stubborn enough to switch to mutton. Who fucking cares?

    Also, it’s still 4% beer right?

    The really weird stuff with that Mulvaney person is him advertising women's products like tampons and sports bras. Very bizarre advertising strategy.

    He’s not advertising tampons. He says he carries them around in case he’s ever in a woman’s toilet and a women doesn’t have one.

    Nike Sports bras , bud lite and something called oil of Olay have Mulvany in their ads .

    If you’re still buying Nike despite them using sweatshops, child labour and borderline slavery wasn’t enough to stop you from buying nike I doubt this will .

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    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @voodoo said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @paremata

    I’m a little perplexed. I mean, I get the revolt against the woke. I do. But it’s hardly an offensive ad. If I genuinely liked that beer, I sure as fuck wouldn’t stop drinking it because they got that dude to promote it. It’s not the worst ad, it’s hardly admonishing the existing drinkers, it’s just a light hearted stupid ad.
    If the the Australian society of slow-cooked lamb shoulders used him/her to promote lamb, I’m not stubborn enough to switch to mutton. Who fucking cares?

    Also, it’s still 4% beer right?

    The really weird stuff with that Mulvaney person is him advertising women's products like tampons and sports bras. Very bizarre advertising strategy.

    I think the Bud Light drinker reaction is based on this cumulative piss take by a grifter

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    @paremata said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Dunno about the percentage but light is usually 2.5% here .

    Pretty sure in seppo-land... "lite" refers to low-carb, rather than low-booze.
    I was at a conference in San Diego years ago... and went for a beer... the barman asked "Lite, yeah?" I said "No - regular... of course". Got chatting with somebody next to me... they found out I was from NZ, and said "yeah - I've seen one other person here ordering the Regular... he was from NZ too."

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    Interesting conversation on transgender athletes with a family member who's a serious elite runner.

    There's a general view in the sport that transgender athletes should be able to compete but not at the expense of other athletes, but also a growing concern about the drugs these people take, whether they are PED's and the long-term impact they might have on those taking them. Real concerns around duty of care liabilities and potential future legal action at the moment from unknown long-term impacts.

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    I have decided I am now pro the idea of people being a non-binary.

    As if I was to force Sam Smith to be a male, then I'd have something in common with it.

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    Is no sport safe from this carnage ????

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/65280560?at_format=link&at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_id=5232AB7E-DAF0-11ED-B0E0-86543AE5AB7B&at_link_origin=BBC_News&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_bbc_team=editorial&fbclid=IwAR2jGgvt3XKYKhEgtG5G-882skDK78JB3m3WtGE2B2bMf1KJiDmyHz4vUd0

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    @MN5 This can't be real😁 😁 Definitely a pisstake. Implications that a man smashes his female opponents in a "mental sport" is too good to be true.

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    Ofc

    The Onion Staff  /  Feb 17, 2023  /  Editorials

    It Is Journalism’s Sacred Duty To Endanger The Lives Of As Many Trans People As Possible

    It Is Journalism’s Sacred Duty To Endanger The Lives Of As Many Trans People As Possible

    The task of reporting is not a simple one. Each and every day, reporters and editors at publications like The Onion make difficult decisions about which issues should receive attention, knowing that our coverage will influence not only how people think, but also how they act. This responsibility is...

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @MN5 This can't be real😁 😁 Definitely a pisstake. Implications that a man smashes his female opponents in a "mental sport" is too good to be true.

    I’m not sure. Everything I’ve ever read on the net has been true to my knowledge

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/300855409/governing-body-denies-male-powerlifter-entry-into-womens-competition

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    Comedy Gold

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    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Comedy Gold

    Dylan says “straight man”with such scorn…..

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300857738/man-accused-of-hitting-woman-at-posie-parker-protest-receives-name-suppression

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    @mikedogz said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300857738/man-accused-of-hitting-woman-at-posie-parker-protest-receives-name-suppression

    Is that normal in NZ?

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    @mikedogz said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300857738/man-accused-of-hitting-woman-at-posie-parker-protest-receives-name-suppression

    Finally.

    I saw this yesterday in the middle of a herald pro-the-protestors piece

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    Yesterday in the UK Telegraph... good good we're starting to roll back their "rights" so we can out trans kids. Finally

    The first bit of common sense has prevailed in the trans debate. It’s about time

    "Writing about one of the many scandals to hit London’s now defunct Tavistock child gender identity clinic three years ago, I came across a “detail” that I had to check once, twice, three times – because what I was reading couldn’t possibly be correct.

    Teachers were not required to inform parents if their children were expressing a desire to change sex or had “feelings of gender distress”.

    As a result, there were instances of children being taken off to consult with the Tavistock about their possible referral to be prescribed such things as puberty blockers without the parents’ knowledge, let alone their consent.

    The thinking was that the confidentiality of a trans child trumps everything, including a parent’s right to know. The reality was a systematic institutional failure of child safeguarding on a level only revealed to us last month, thanks to a report published by the think tank Policy Exchange.

    It found that just 28 per cent of schools who responded were “reliably informing parents when a child said they had feelings of gender distress”.

    Obviously, if your child wore the wrong blazer, stole another pupil’s pen or was overheard using the F-word in the playground, the school would be on the phone to you within minutes.

    But little things like “Felix thinks he may actually be Felicia” barely warrant a mention. Crucially, the report was alarming enough to prompt action from a government that has been too scared to do the right thing for years…in case it looks wrong.

    New rules are now being finalised which will mean that within weeks, parents will have to be informed if pupils start using a different identity.

    This is a triumph, but it’s hard to think of it that way when the failures have been so eye-watering, and allowed so much damage to be done."

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