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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Chris Dalton papalii meet with razor ? What's your take on that and yes I no Dalton

    Yeah I heard about them meeting,Potential new AB Captain maybe or a switch in positions to 6.But not 100% sure.

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    @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

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      @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

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      @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

      @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

      I thought it was going to be that.

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        @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

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        @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

        @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

        It was only a matter of time for both.

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        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

          I'm curious to ask, how would Hurricanes fans feel about Holland leaving if they won the title this year?

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          @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          I'm curious to ask, how would Hurricanes fans feel about Holland leaving if they won the title this year?

          He can put some nice attacking plays together, but can't select a team to save himself. Done better this year though, but still some odd selections.

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              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/weeks-not-months-on-abs-coaching/

              NZR: "Were moving as fast as we can..."

              Also NZRalt text

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/weeks-not-months-on-abs-coaching/

                NZR: "Were moving as fast as we can..."

                Also NZRalt text

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                @Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!

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                  @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  I'm curious to ask, how would Hurricanes fans feel about Holland leaving if they won the title this year?

                  He can put some nice attacking plays together, but can't select a team to save himself. Done better this year though, but still some odd selections.

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                  @Darren said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  I'm curious to ask, how would Hurricanes fans feel about Holland leaving if they won the title this year?

                  He can put some nice attacking plays together, but can't select a team to save himself. Done better this year though, but still some odd selections.

                  Agree. But he's only done better against the weaker team. He's got qualities to be a good assistant coach but not a head coach

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

                    I thought it was going to be that.

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                    @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

                    I thought it was going to be that.

                    Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

                      I thought it was going to be that.

                      Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.

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                      @Winger said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Chris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @george33 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Chris no switch he's 7 and captain

                      I thought it was going to be that.

                      Smart move to not select a Crusader as captain. If it happens.

                      Yeah it is,sends a good message to the players.

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                        Have seen this channel lately and don't know if this is credible or not to be honest.

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                          Have seen this channel lately and don't know if this is credible or not to be honest.

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                          @SBW1 That's not an NZR account.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!

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                            @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                            @Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!

                            Not really, the coaches are all NZ contracted, so the sorting of assist coaches is not hard. The hard part is 3 SR teams cleaning up the mess afterwards, like we had with Hollands appt last minute to the Canes 2019/2020

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                              Have seen this channel lately and don't know if this is credible or not to be honest.

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                              @SBW1 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              Have seen this channel lately and don't know if this is credible or not to be honest.

                              About as real as that Antifa twitter account post around Cleopatra!

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                                @SBW1 said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                Have seen this channel lately and don't know if this is credible or not to be honest.

                                About as real as that Antifa twitter account post around Cleopatra!

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                                @Machpants .....that might be one of the most random combination of words in a single sentence ive ever heard....im going to have to looks that now....im sure i'll regret it

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                                  @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!

                                  Not really, the coaches are all NZ contracted, so the sorting of assist coaches is not hard. The hard part is 3 SR teams cleaning up the mess afterwards, like we had with Hollands appt last minute to the Canes 2019/2020

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                                  @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Machpants I expect this part involves alot of movement of current super coaches, so will take some ironing out!

                                  Not really, the coaches are all NZ contracted, so the sorting of assist coaches is not hard. The hard part is 3 SR teams cleaning up the mess afterwards, like we had with Hollands appt last minute to the Canes 2019/2020

                                  They may be NZR contracted but many get top ups from the Franchise partners

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      How many assistant coaches does Robertson want? If that NZH article is correct, MacDonald is sort of redundant when you also have Holland in charge of the attack.

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                                      @Bovidae said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                      How many assistant coaches does Robertson want? If that NZH article is correct, MacDonald is sort of redundant when you also have Holland in charge of the attack.

                                      If this helps, I did some digging for you - a complete history of Razor's assistant configuration.

                                      NZ U20's (less relevant as limited resources for a full coaching set-up.)

                                      2015: MacDonald, Umaga.

                                      2016: Philpott, Rickards.

                                      Canterbury

                                      2013-2014: Ryan, Holland, Hansen.

                                      2015-2016: Ryan, Haggard, Maddock.

                                      Crusaders

                                      2017: Ryan, MacDonald, Mooar.

                                      2018-2019: Ryan, O'Gara, Goodman, Mooar.

                                      2020: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Jones.

                                      2021-2022: Ryan, Hansen, Goodman, Ellison.

                                      2023: Perrin, Hansen, Marshall, Ellison.

                                      Seems like a forwards/set-piece coach, 2-3 attack/backs coaches, & defense coach is his preferred structure.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout

                                        Awkward ramifications? Must have been such an huge surprise to them all...hope none of them read that article.

                                        Weird take by NZH

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                                        @canefan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout

                                        Awkward ramifications? Must have been such an huge surprise to them all...hope none of them read that article.

                                        Weird take by NZH

                                        But you repeat yourself

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                                          Robertson is understood to have settled on, and now informed, his preferred All Blacks coaching team. That includes incumbent forwards coach Jason Ryan leading the scrum/lineout/breakdown, Blues head coach Leon MacDonald taking charge of attacking shape, highly-regarded Crusaders assistant Scott Hansen overseeing defence and Holland designing strike plays.

                                          For New Zealand Rugby, the awkward ramifications of signing off that team would involve telling All Blacks assistants Scott McLeod (defence) and Greg Feek (scrum) they will soon be on the outer as part of a widespread cleanout, with head coach Ian Foster and Joe Schimdt already signposting their intent to move on after the World Cup.

                                          Paywalled

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-exclusive-scott-robertsons-decision-made-on-his-preferred-coaching-team-for-2024/7R25B2TTCBGIXMCMIF7TLRC6JE/

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                                          @Machpants quoted NZH in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                          Blues head coach Leon MacDonald taking charge of attacking shape

                                          Well, I guess we're all going to be thrilled with the difference in Beauden no longer cross field kicking to try and stretch the defence...

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