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    @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
    Mine :
    De Groot
    Taukei'aho
    Lomax
    Retallick
    ?
    Finau
    Papali'i
    Sotutu
    Weber/Roigard
    MacKenzie
    Fainganu'uku
    T. Umaga Jensen
    Aumua
    Narawa/Telea
    Stephenson

    Only one Crusaders player, more Highlanders even, surprisingly.

    How come these form teams, or 'team/s of week' rarely ever feature more than a couple of Crusaders while the same people claim a certain coach gets all the best players when he ends up doing yet another headspin around the super rugby trophy.

    An interesting dichotomy.

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    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

      @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

      A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
      Mine :
      De Groot
      Taukei'aho
      Lomax
      Retallick
      ?
      Finau
      Papali'i
      Sotutu
      Weber/Roigard
      MacKenzie
      Fainganu'uku
      T. Umaga Jensen
      Aumua
      Narawa/Telea
      Stephenson

      Only one Crusaders player, more Highlanders even, surprisingly.

      How come these form teams, or 'team/s of week' rarely ever feature more than a couple of Crusaders while the same people claim a certain coach gets all the best players when he ends up doing yet another headspin around the super rugby trophy.

      An interesting dichotomy.

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      @kiwi_expat is this just a vibe you have or have you actually checked? i feel there are times lots of crusaders would make these teams in the past

      edit: picked the super round at random and there are 5 crusaders

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131411652/super-rugby-team-of-the-week-richie-mounga-bounces-back-as-beauden-barrett-struggles

      random week from last year, 7 crusaders

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128209119/moana-pasifika-hitman-henry-timestowers-a-highlight-of-super-rugby-team-of-the-week

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @kiwi_expat is this just a vibe you have or have you actually checked? i feel there are times lots of crusaders would make these teams in the past

          edit: picked the super round at random and there are 5 crusaders

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131411652/super-rugby-team-of-the-week-richie-mounga-bounces-back-as-beauden-barrett-struggles

          random week from last year, 7 crusaders

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128209119/moana-pasifika-hitman-henry-timestowers-a-highlight-of-super-rugby-team-of-the-week

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          @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

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          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

            @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

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            @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

            @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

            Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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              There was a similar claim this time last year that Crusaders players aren’t rated on TSF so I ran a poll asking how many Crusaders would make their AB 23 (not a prediction of what the selectors would pick)

              There is no such thing as a TSF consensus but most people had loads of Crusaders in their 23

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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                @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

                @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

                also Mo'unga, Jordan and SBarrett normally walk in to these teams, and one hasn't played, the other two are not the form players

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                  A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                  Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                  Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

                    They didn't play this weekend did they? They're doing well if they got players in the team.

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                    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                      A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                      Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                      Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                      @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                      A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                      Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                      I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                        A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                        Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                        I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

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                        @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                        @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                        A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                        Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                        I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                        Fixed it.

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                          @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                          @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                          A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                          Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                          I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                          Fixed it.

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                          @Bones said in Best players in SR this week:

                          @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                          @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                          A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                          Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                          I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                          Fixed it.

                          I think that is exactly what may happen plus no Ross.

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                            Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

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                              Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

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                              @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                              Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

                              We're watching a different Weber

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                                I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                  I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                  Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                  @kiwi_expat Comedy gold.

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                                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                                    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                                    Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                                    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                                    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                                    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                                    Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

                                    Can you at least put them in alphabetical order or sort them by position ?

                                    Jesus Christ Man. This is all over the shop.

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                                    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                      I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                      Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                      @kiwi_expat Rayasi. The comedy starts early on in the article.

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                                        @kiwi_expat Comedy gold.

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                                        @Stargazer

                                        hookers, midfielders, loose-forwards, props, halfbacks.

                                        32 players listed (3 Crusaders).

                                        the Crusaders have a monopoly on NZ's top Super Rugby talent, clearly.

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                                          @Stargazer

                                          hookers, midfielders, loose-forwards, props, halfbacks.

                                          32 players listed (3 Crusaders).

                                          the Crusaders have a monopoly on NZ's top Super Rugby talent, clearly.

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                                          @kiwi_expat 8 of the 16 forwards named for the All Blacks XV squad were Crusaders.

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