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    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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    There was a similar claim this time last year that Crusaders players aren’t rated on TSF so I ran a poll asking how many Crusaders would make their AB 23 (not a prediction of what the selectors would pick)

    There is no such thing as a TSF consensus but most people had loads of Crusaders in their 23

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    @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

    also Mo'unga, Jordan and SBarrett normally walk in to these teams, and one hasn't played, the other two are not the form players

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    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

    Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

    They didn't play this weekend did they? They're doing well if they got players in the team.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

    I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

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    @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

    I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

    Fixed it.

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    @Bones said in Best players in SR this week:

    @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

    I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

    Fixed it.

    I think that is exactly what may happen plus no Ross.

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    Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

    We're watching a different Weber

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    I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

    Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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    @kiwi_expat Comedy gold.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

    Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

    Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

    Can you at least put them in alphabetical order or sort them by position ?

    Jesus Christ Man. This is all over the shop.

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    @kiwi_expat Rayasi. The comedy starts early on in the article.

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    @Stargazer

    hookers, midfielders, loose-forwards, props, halfbacks.

    32 players listed (3 Crusaders).

    the Crusaders have a monopoly on NZ's top Super Rugby talent, clearly.

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    @kiwi_expat 8 of the 16 forwards named for the All Blacks XV squad were Crusaders.

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    @KiwiMurph 0/12 backs, plus Cortez Ratima, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Shaun Stevenson, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrone Thompson, were brought in for the second game.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

    @KiwiMurph 0/12 backs, plus Cortez Ratima, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Shaun Stevenson, Tevita Mafileo, Tyrone Thompson, were brought in for the second game.

    Aside from halfback the Crusaders could have put a full backline from the ABs end of year tour with a 10, 2 midfielders and 3 outside backs.

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    Anyway - back on topic, one player to me who has really improved is Nanai-Seturo.

    His error rate is way down and his defence is much improved.

    Hopefully he sticks around NZ as he could push for higher honours next year.

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    @KiwiMurph Yes, although 12 months ago (according to boardies on here...) the Chiefs back three options were useless, I remember it very clearly, we have no quality finishers they said, it's the reason we lost to Razor's mob they said, the poor performances nothing to do with the coaches, we simply don't have the cattle, they said.

    Funny thing is they didn't introduce anyone new to the squad & the sentiment has changed completely, it turns out that developing existing players and improved detail in coaching (Paul Feeney's work with Chiefs outside backs in pre-season) can make a difference. The Chiefs' back three are outperforming everyone this season.

    Narawa is our best 14 on show, he is almost the complete package at just 23, I'd personally take him over Telea.

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