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Super Rugby - Who's it going to be?

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #51

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168543/sixtry-sharks-book-playoff-place'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/82168543/sixtry-sharks-book-playoff-place</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The Sharks will be seeded eighth for the quarterfinals, which means they will face the team that finishes top in the overall standings, either compatriots the Lions or the Chiefs. Their opponents will be decided on Saturday.</p>
    <p> </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Seriously, who are the dumb motherfuckers who write/check/publish this shit?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Not only apparently a total lack of understanding of basic mathematics, but the permutations have been discussed ad nauseum for several weeks.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>You simply have to be both incompetent and as thick as pigshit.</p>

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    • mimicM Offline
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      mimic
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      #52

      Or a chiefs fan

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      • Chris B.C Offline
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        Chris B.
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        #53

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="597098" data-time="1468655055">
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        <p>Or a chiefs fan</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Didn't I cover that with thick as...? :)</p>

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        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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          taniwharugby
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          #54

          So Lions could get a BP and finish on same as canes, they will have same wins, so would that then go to the match the canes hammered them in? <br><br>
          So the table topping brumbies(surely) and stormers both finish with less points than Chiefs, highlanders and crusaders....

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            hydro11
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            #55

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="597313" data-time="1468661753">
            <div>
            <p>So Lions could get a BP and finish on same as canes, they will have same wins, so would that then go to the match the canes hammered them in?<br><br>
            So the table topping brumbies(surely) and stormers both finish with less points than Chiefs, highlanders and crusaders....</p>
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            </blockquote>
            <p>It goes to points difference I think and tthe Lions have a better PD than the 'canes.</p>

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              Toddy
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              #56

              <p>Poor old Canes. Top the NZ conference and then likely to play the hardest of the 1/4ers. </p>

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                michaelmac
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                #57

                <p>Lions/Canes vs Sharks</p>
                <p>Lions/Canes vs Saders</p>
                <p>Stormers vs Chiefs</p>
                <p>Brumbies/Tahs vs Highlanders</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Lions just need a bonus point to go top and face the Sharks. Then the Canes and Saders will play again in the quarters.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Brumbies just need a bonus point and will face the Highlanders.</p>

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                • SiamS Offline
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                  Siam
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                  #58

                  Stupid question probablybut is it all knock out rugby in the finals?

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                    canefan
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                    #59

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="597322" data-time="1468662183"><p>Stupid question probablybut is it all knock out rugby in the finals?</p></blockquote>No extra lives for top qualifiers a-la loigue

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                    • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                      taniwharugby
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                      #60

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="597317" data-time="1468661916"><p>It goes to points difference I think and tthe Lions have a better PD than the 'canes.</p></blockquote>
                      <br>
                      Ah ok, another daft thing IMO, if tied go back to if they played one another, if not, then points diff.

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                        #61

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="595665" data-time="1468113342">
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                        <p>Thanks Stargazer, so it looks like a Canes thrashing of the Crusaders and a close Highlanders victory over the Chiefs next weekend will see the Hurricanes top the Conference.</p>
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                        <p> </p>
                        <p> :yes:  :good1: :good: :yahoo: :drinks:</p>

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                          michaelmac
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                          #62

                          <p>If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p>

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                            hydro11
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                            #63

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="michaelmac" data-cid="597335" data-time="1468662926">
                            <div>
                            <p>If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p>I still don't see why that should prevent them from using head to head. If the teams split their games or didn't play you could just move on to points difference.</p>

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                              Chris B.
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                              #64

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="597337" data-time="1468663839">
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                              <p>I still don't see why that should prevent them from using head to head. If the teams split their games or didn't play you could just move on to points difference.</p>
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                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>I'm happy enough with points differential. Home advantage, playing off the back of travel or a couple of hard games, can all confer significant advantage to one team for a one-off game.</p>

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                                taniwharugby
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                                #65

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="michaelmac" data-cid="597335" data-time="1468662926"><p>
                                If tied it goes to most wins, then points differential.<br><br>
                                They can't go by who won in round-robin because some teams don't play each other and some teams play each other twice.</p></blockquote>They can and like wins, points diff, cards or whatever, if it doesn't work they move to the next decider.<br><br>
                                IMO beating another team is a much better and fairer way to determine who should sit higher than a points diff in different conferences, especially if they have played.

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                                  infidel
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                                  #66

                                  Jaguares are paying 1.27 on Betfair to win this game, so Jaguares are very much favoured to win.

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                                    reprobate
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                                    #67

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="597397" data-time="1468701223">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>They can and like wins, points diff, cards or whatever, if it doesn't work they move to the next decider.<br><br>
                                    IMO beating another team is a much better and fairer way to determine who should sit higher than a points diff in different conferences, especially if they have played.</p>
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                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>yep i'm with you. otherwise team A could be better than team B, but team B get through because they play loose attacking footy in a shit conference and put 70 points on the bunnies.</p>

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                                      Provincial Stalwart
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                                      #68

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="597414" data-time="1468705413">
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                                      <p>yep i'm with you. otherwise team A could be better than team B, but team B get through <strong>because they play loose attacking footy </strong>in a shit conference and put 70 points on the bunnies.</p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>But the rewards for playing loose attacking footy have been diminished this year with the new three try margin bonus point. Loose attacking footy could be winning a game six tries to four, which banks a bonus point under the old system but not under the new.  </p>

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                                        Chris B.
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                                        #69

                                        <p>This Jaguares/Lions game is likely to be huge for the final outcome of Super rugby - Jaguares can potentially do the Canes a massive favour by shutting the Lions out.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Given MHO that the Stormers and Brumbies are rubbish and are going to get thumped by the Chiefs and Highlanders the Canes' happiest path to the title is likely to be Sharks/Chiefs on the back of an SA trip/Highlanders on the back of an SA trip (or just maybe the Lions).</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Their worst path is likely Crusaders/Highlanders/Lions in SA or Chiefs after two weeks in SA.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Conversely, if I were a Highlanders fan I'd be on the Lions all the way.</p>

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                                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                          taniwharugby
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                                          #70

                                          <p>So, match ups for next week, is it straight knock out now?</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Away team logos around wrong way in middle 2 clashes</p>
                                          <p><img src="https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13606790_1075473055822739_1785907253281014612_n.jpg?oh=1e6bde8a5743757af127ce7a42830894&amp;oe=582FC9D8" alt="13606790_1075473055822739_17859072532810"></p>

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