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All Blacks 2023

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

    Are the All Black rest protocols still in place?

    McMillan's comments after beating the Crusaders:

    “It gives us a little bit of breathing space, and breathing space counts for a lot of things. We’re going to have to give our All Blacks another break between now and quarterfinal time, what games you choose to do that becomes a little bit easier.”

    I assumed the ABs needed another rest week, but maybe that is McMillan's decision about the Chiefs only.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

    @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

    Are the All Black rest protocols still in place?

    McMillan's comments after beating the Crusaders:

    “It gives us a little bit of breathing space, and breathing space counts for a lot of things. We’re going to have to give our All Blacks another break between now and quarterfinal time, what games you choose to do that becomes a little bit easier.”

    I assumed the ABs needed another rest week, but maybe that is McMillan's decision about the Chiefs only.

    That was what prompted me to ask. @Stargazer that explains it then. McMillan may be doing it voluntarily.

    Was thinking ahead to next week. Taukeiaho and Vaai obvious ones to have a break and maybe Dyer rests if Moli can play.

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      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

      @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

      Are the All Black rest protocols still in place?

      McMillan's comments after beating the Crusaders:

      “It gives us a little bit of breathing space, and breathing space counts for a lot of things. We’re going to have to give our All Blacks another break between now and quarterfinal time, what games you choose to do that becomes a little bit easier.”

      I assumed the ABs needed another rest week, but maybe that is McMillan's decision about the Chiefs only.

      That was what prompted me to ask. @Stargazer that explains it then. McMillan may be doing it voluntarily.

      Was thinking ahead to next week. Taukeiaho and Vaai obvious ones to have a break and maybe Dyer rests if Moli can play.

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      @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

      Was thinking ahead to next week. Taukeiaho and Vaai obvious ones to have a break and maybe Dyer rests if Moli can play.

      My guess is that Vaa'i wouldn't have played last night if Retallick was fit and they would swap for the Reds game. Boshier's injury might complicate the plan for Cane to rest. I expect all fit Taranaki Chiefs to be in the 23 to play the Reds.

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        @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

        Play the "best" (incumbent) 15 men every week to win the Rugby Championship and have "confidence" going to the RWC.

        or

        Experiment to give the Stevensons, Roigards. Narawas of the world an audition?

        What will we do?

        Clearly the latter I would hope. We will be the team everyone fears with multiple attacking threats from the new talent. Then if we are good at spotting the gaps and taking advantage we can prosper. We need to build some confidence in the players creating those threats.

        Just compare Narawa with Clarke. Much easier to defend a player sliding into the tackle and trying to bump through. But when a player can chip and regather or swerve around or reverse pass accurately how much harder is that to defend? And if a fullback can kick long and reasonably accurately as well as counterattack, then it restricts the opposition options.

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        @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

        ust compare Narawa with Clarke. Much easier to defend a player sliding into the tackle and trying to bump through. But when a player can chip and regather or swerve around or reverse pass accurately how much harder is that to defend? And if a fullback can kick long and reasonably accurately as well as counterattack, then it restricts the opposition options.

        I really like Narawa, but Clarke is much more than a bash merchant.
        He can step at pace, actually is quick ,and is good under the high ball.
        I'd like to know if Narawa is good under the high ball.

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          @Nepia said in Highlanders v Chiefs:

          @Steven-Harris said in Highlanders v Chiefs:

          @Stargazer that was a critisim of James Lowes as well ,i do wonder however if all the other tools SS brings to the table outweigh any defensive issues

          Poor defence didn't hold back Reece from being selected for the ABs.

          Reece is the best winger defensively in the Crusaders & All Blacks, Jordan on the other hand is usually a liability, he has cost his team/s numerous times in crucial moments on defense at SR and test level, it appears that people only look at his contributions on attack, however strength of defense and collisions is what determines matches at international level which is why Reece & Narawa are better options at 14 than Jordan for the All Blacks IMO.

          ,My All Black back 3 would be Fainga'anuku, Stevenson, Narawa. Big, physically imposing & defensively solid.

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          • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

            @Nepia said in Highlanders v Chiefs:

            @Steven-Harris said in Highlanders v Chiefs:

            @Stargazer that was a critisim of James Lowes as well ,i do wonder however if all the other tools SS brings to the table outweigh any defensive issues

            Poor defence didn't hold back Reece from being selected for the ABs.

            Reece is the best winger defensively in the Crusaders & All Blacks, Jordan on the other hand is usually a liability, he has cost his team/s numerous times in crucial moments on defense at SR and test level, it appears that people only look at his contributions on attack, however strength of defense and collisions is what determines matches at international level which is why Reece & Narawa are better options at 14 than Jordan for the All Blacks IMO.

            ,My All Black back 3 would be Fainga'anuku, Stevenson, Narawa. Big, physically imposing & defensively solid.

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            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

            Reece is the best winger defensively in the Crusaders & All Blacks

            Reece had very poor defence when first making the ABs. Don't pretend otherwise.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

              Reece is the best winger defensively in the Crusaders & All Blacks

              Reece had very poor defence when first making the ABs. Don't pretend otherwise.

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              @Nepia He has always been strong in getting over the ball and cover defends effectively a long way across field. Best in NZ maybe at that. Always thought those were standouts that offset front on defensive weakness.

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                Speaking of over the ball - Narawa is excellent at that.

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                  Jesus Christ!

                  Would you like a cup of tea, Father! 🙂

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                    So, fans of the shitter franchises

                    How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

                    Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

                    Loving watching them are ya?

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      So, fans of the shitter franchises

                      How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

                      Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

                      Loving watching them are ya?

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                      @mariner4life Drink! Arse! Feck!!! 🙂

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        So, fans of the shitter franchises

                        How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

                        Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

                        Loving watching them are ya?

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                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                        So, fans of the shitter franchises

                        How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

                        Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

                        Loving watching them are ya?

                        Did you even see the Clarke + Akira try? I’ll take that for the ABs in a World Cup.

                        I think your post should be in the GOM thread

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          So, fans of the shitter franchises

                          How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

                          Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

                          Loving watching them are ya?

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                          @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

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                            @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                            How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                            Should we also bring back Carlos?

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                              How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                              Should we also bring back Carlos?

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                              How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                              Should we also bring back Carlos?

                              Canes aren’t that bad.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                                How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                                Should we also bring back Carlos?

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                                Clearly we already have enough to flog the Highlanders.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                                  How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                                  Should we also bring back Carlos?

                                  Canes aren’t that bad.

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                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

                                  How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

                                  Should we also bring back Carlos?

                                  Canes aren’t that bad.

                                  That's a solid burn

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                                    The best tight 5 has been the Highlanders
                                    They'll get 1 AB

                                    The best loose trio has been the Chiefs
                                    They'll get one AB

                                    The best inside backs have been the Chiefs, They'll be off the bench

                                    The best midfield has been the Blues, one will be in the ABs

                                    The best outside backs have been the Chiefs
                                    They'll probably get no players selected

                                    Of the ABs were a rep side talkback radio would go fucking off.

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                                      Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.
                                      9. Smith
                                      10. DMac - a fullback playing 10
                                      11. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
                                      12. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
                                      13. RIoane - a wing playing centre
                                      14. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
                                      15. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.
                                        9. Smith
                                        10. DMac - a fullback playing 10
                                        11. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
                                        12. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
                                        13. RIoane - a wing playing centre
                                        14. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
                                        15. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        1. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

                                        Pfftt.... Beauden isn't a first five.....

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          The best tight 5 has been the Highlanders
                                          They'll get 1 AB

                                          The best loose trio has been the Chiefs
                                          They'll get one AB

                                          The best inside backs have been the Chiefs, They'll be off the bench

                                          The best midfield has been the Blues, one will be in the ABs

                                          The best outside backs have been the Chiefs
                                          They'll probably get no players selected

                                          Of the ABs were a rep side talkback radio would go fucking off.

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                                          @mariner4life Don't forget that, at that this time last year, the Blues were unbeatable, but didn't go on to dominate the ABs either.

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