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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by Crucial
    #991

    Top 5 scenarios

    1. Chiefs (locked in)
    2. Crusaders unless they lose without a bonus to Canes AND Blues beat Highlanders with a bonus AND there's a 34 point swing
    3. Blues, unless the above scenario happens and they jump to 2nd. Brumbies would need a win against Rebels and a Blues loss OR Blues to win without a bonus and a huge win.
    4. Brumbies unless they lose to the Rebels AND the Canes beat the Saders.
    5. Canes, unless they beat Saders and Brumbies lose.

    Odds are that the table wont change at this end.
    Canes have most to gain if they could get to 4th and avoid a trip to Canberra.

    If that happens and all quarters are played in NZ expect Oz to tune out.

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      #992

      Yay, looking like the Canes over to Canberra for the second year in a row. FFS.

      Hopefully we've learned something from last year but with Holland at the helm I doubt it.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Top 5 scenarios

        1. Chiefs (locked in)
        2. Crusaders unless they lose without a bonus to Canes AND Blues beat Highlanders with a bonus AND there's a 34 point swing
        3. Blues, unless the above scenario happens and they jump to 2nd. Brumbies would need a win against Rebels and a Blues loss OR Blues to win without a bonus and a huge win.
        4. Brumbies unless they lose to the Rebels AND the Canes beat the Saders.
        5. Canes, unless they beat Saders and Brumbies lose.

        Odds are that the table wont change at this end.
        Canes have most to gain if they could get to 4th and avoid a trip to Canberra.

        If that happens and all quarters are played in NZ expect Oz to tune out.

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        #993

        @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

        Brumbies would need a huge (80 plus) win against Rebels and a Blues loss OR Blues to win without a bonus.

        Brumbies are only a point behind the Blues

        If the Blues lose and Brumbies win they swap positions. The huge win to change points diff only comes into to it if the Blues win without a bonus point

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

          Brumbies would need a huge (80 plus) win against Rebels and a Blues loss OR Blues to win without a bonus.

          Brumbies are only a point behind the Blues

          If the Blues lose and Brumbies win they swap positions. The huge win to change points diff only comes into to it if the Blues win without a bonus point

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          #994

          @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

          Brumbies would need a huge (80 plus) win against Rebels and a Blues loss OR Blues to win without a bonus.

          Brumbies are only a point behind the Blues

          If the Blues lose and Brumbies win they swap positions. The huge win to change points diff only comes into to it if the Blues win without a bonus point

          Yep, got in a tangle there. Have corrected.

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          • CrucialC Offline
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            #995

            The race for the bottom: 7th and 8th (Tahs sit safely in 6th). So many permutations. There are 4 matches that will impact this and each match has 4 possible outcomes (more if looking at PD)
            As one of Drua or Reds will pick up Points there is really only one spot being contested

            Highlanders need to either win, or hope that all of Drua, Force and Rebels lose and that the Blues don't beat them by a much bigger margin than the Force lose by.

            Rebels and Drua must win for a chance.

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              Bovidae
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              #996

              The Rebels could be eliminated by Friday night so the other teams will have a clearer picture of what they need to do to make the 8.

              The Highlanders would also finish ahead of the Force if they end up on the same points (assuming the Blues don't thrash them).

              In the event of two or more teams being equal on competition points for any position on either the Competition table, either during or at the end of the season, such position will be decided upon using the following steps until the tie is broken:
              a) Most wins from all matches;
              b) Highest aggregate points difference from all matches;
              c) Most tries from all matches;
              d) Highest aggregate difference of total tries for versus tries scored against from all matches;
              e) Coin toss

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                #997

                Anyone have any idea which seeded teams will be playing on which nights? I've looked at historical seedings at 1st seed isn't always on the Saturday night. My schools show is on Friday night next week and will be pissed if the Chiefs are on Friday night lmao, but I feel like it's likely if its v Drua.

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  Anyone have any idea which seeded teams will be playing on which nights? I've looked at historical seedings at 1st seed isn't always on the Saturday night. My schools show is on Friday night next week and will be pissed if the Chiefs are on Friday night lmao, but I feel like it's likely if its v Drua.

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                  #998

                  @Yeetyaah I don't think they look at seeding for scheduling the QFs. I think they look at when teams have played their games the previous week.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @Yeetyaah I don't think they look at seeding for scheduling the QFs. I think they look at when teams have played their games the previous week.

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                    Yeetyaah
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                    #999

                    @Stargazer right so might be a safe bet that the Chiefs are on Saturday considering they're at midnight our time and have to fly back from Perth?

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                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                      @Stargazer right so might be a safe bet that the Chiefs are on Saturday considering they're at midnight our time and have to fly back from Perth?

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                      @Yeetyaah You'd hope so. If they look at who played when this weekend, it would mean that - if the table stays the same at the top - the Blues and/or Brumbies play their QF on Friday, and the Chiefs and Crusaders on Saturday. And if there's only one QF on Friday, they should pick the team based on when the opponent last played or have to travel from. But maybe there are also other factors like stadium availability, teams having other preferences or Sky's logistics, I don't know. :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

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                        #1001

                        After Friday night's results only the 7th and 8th positions are yet to be confirmed.

                        The Blues (3) will host the Waratahs (6), while the Hurricanes (5) travel to Canberra to play the Brumbies (4).

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                          #1002

                          A Force win should see them take 7th.
                          A Drua win could see them still miss out if Reds get a BP

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                            #1003

                            Landers hoping that both Force and Drua lose

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                              #1004

                              Quarter Finals according to the NZ Super Rugby website (not on the SANZAAR website yet):

                              image.png

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                                #1005

                                Blues win
                                Chiefs slaughter
                                Crusaders win comfortably
                                But a possibility of an upset in Canberra

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                                • M Machpants

                                  Blues win
                                  Chiefs slaughter
                                  Crusaders win comfortably
                                  But a possibility of an upset in Canberra

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1006

                                  @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                  Blues win
                                  Chiefs slaughter
                                  Crusaders win comfortably
                                  But a possibility of an upset in Canberra

                                  Possibility but hard to tell if we saw a Saders side going to sleep on a dead rubber or a good Canes side.
                                  Brumbies have lost a bit recently through injuries and seem clueless when their maul isn’t working.
                                  Definitely the toughest pick although Blues/Tahs could be interesting on the day. Blues fumbling their way along at the moment and the Tahs can be good for spells.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                    Blues win
                                    Chiefs slaughter
                                    Crusaders win comfortably
                                    But a possibility of an upset in Canberra

                                    Possibility but hard to tell if we saw a Saders side going to sleep on a dead rubber or a good Canes side.
                                    Brumbies have lost a bit recently through injuries and seem clueless when their maul isn’t working.
                                    Definitely the toughest pick although Blues/Tahs could be interesting on the day. Blues fumbling their way along at the moment and the Tahs can be good for spells.

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                                    @Crucial tahs were appalling last night, showed nothing to farewell hoops, opposite of canes.

                                    BBBR may pick apart brumbies maul, I can't see short ineffectual perpetual motion machine Blackwell doing the same!

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/one-last-banquet-awaits-guzzler-at-the-rugby-world-cup/

                                    Top saders will easily over come what will be an over excited Drua imo.

                                    Chiefs quite a team apart ATM, going in with momentum and depth

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                                      @Crucial tahs were appalling last night, showed nothing to farewell hoops, opposite of canes.

                                      BBBR may pick apart brumbies maul, I can't see short ineffectual perpetual motion machine Blackwell doing the same!

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/one-last-banquet-awaits-guzzler-at-the-rugby-world-cup/

                                      Top saders will easily over come what will be an over excited Drua imo.

                                      Chiefs quite a team apart ATM, going in with momentum and depth

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                                      #1008

                                      @Machpants hadn’t seen Tahs game. Maybe I’m optimistic in hoping for a decent game

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        Quarter Finals according to the NZ Super Rugby website (not on the SANZAAR website yet):

                                        image.png

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                                        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                        Quarter Finals according to the NZ Super Rugby website (not on the SANZAAR website yet):

                                        image.png

                                        Great. My canes earn a trip to the graveyard that is Bruce Stadium. Our record there is appalling

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          Quarter Finals according to the NZ Super Rugby website (not on the SANZAAR website yet):

                                          image.png

                                          Great. My canes earn a trip to the graveyard that is Bruce Stadium. Our record there is appalling

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                                          @canefan said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          Quarter Finals according to the NZ Super Rugby website (not on the SANZAAR website yet):

                                          image.png

                                          Great. My canes earn a trip to the graveyard that is Bruce Stadium. Our record there is appalling

                                          They haven’t realised that the key to success at Bruce is to get the crowd jeering and booing.

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