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All Blacks World Cup bolters

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    Reckon he'd be an excellent "Kahui" even.

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      @Darren said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

      I'm just happy we have some bolters putting their hands up.
      Hard to look past Heem as the form utility player right now, he wouldn't let anyone down.

      I wouldn't be surprised if they still have Ennor, Goodhue, ALB, Havili ahead of him, but any sane man would instantly throw him in if any of them are out and I'd say he should probably be first in line if Jordie gets injured too.

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      @Bones How would his distribution go under test match pressure? I love the guy, he's a very rare big ball carrier at 12, but that's something that would need to be examined quickly.

      Not like there are a lot of other options though.

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        @Bones How would his distribution go under test match pressure? I love the guy, he's a very rare big ball carrier at 12, but that's something that would need to be examined quickly.

        Not like there are a lot of other options though.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

        @Bones How would his distribution go under test match pressure? I love the guy, he's a very rare big ball carrier at 12, but that's something that would need to be examined quickly.

        Not like there are a lot of other options though.

        Seems really measured and makes excellent decisions - you don't see him throwing the big skip or a hail Mary, but there's no arguing good things happen for those around him.

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          @Bones How would his distribution go under test match pressure? I love the guy, he's a very rare big ball carrier at 12, but that's something that would need to be examined quickly.

          Not like there are a lot of other options though.

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          @Tim sadly, I cant see them taking a punt on him.

          Which is a shame, because he brings the kind of smarts and consistency you want with enough size and pace to make him an attacking threat in the mid-field too.

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            Plummer has got to be on the brink, especially if Havili is out.

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              Probably for the RC. Wonder if Levi Aumua will feature this year for the All Blacks.

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                Probably for the RC. Wonder if Levi Aumua will feature this year for the All Blacks.

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                @SBW1 said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                Probably for the RC. Wonder if Levi Aumua will feature this year for the All Blacks.

                If he is playing for the NPC, if he does he can. But he won't, foster is so conservative, there will be zero bolters IMO

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                  Maybe Luke Jacobson and Ethan Blackadder will get back in, but I think the 36 this year will be almost entirely from the 46 players named on the All Blacks website as current All Blacks.

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                    Suspect Cam Roigard, Shaun Stevenson and (depending on when various props get back into action) Tamaiti Williams might crack the squad this year.

                    Not sure you'd count any of those guys as bolters, but I suppose it depends on whether your definition is a completely left-field pick out of nowhere (a la Isaia Toeava) or a guy who was nowhere near the squad at the beginning of the year but has been in too good form to leave out (which also probably doesn't apply, given they all featured for the ABs XV).

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                      I am hoping Ruben Love can play himself into a bit of form during the finals, if he does well he could be a contender although probably won't get enough time to prove himself. Next year for sure.

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                        Shaun Stevenson perhaps, but I think Roigard and Williams will be made to wait a year.

                        DMac is not listed as a current All Black on the website but I expect him to be in the 36.

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                          Shaun Stevenson perhaps, but I think Roigard and Williams will be made to wait a year.

                          DMac is not listed as a current All Black on the website but I expect him to be in the 36.

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                          @sparky Williams may be a case of needs must...

                          Bower, Moody and Newell are all out with injuries at the moment but could all be back for the first Rugby Championship match.

                          Lomax and Laulala are the only fit specialist tightheads, and Tu'ungafasi can certainly play there but has mostly been used as a loosehead.

                          If the All Blacks need a new tighthead, you'd have to say that Williams likely has the inside running.

                          I actually think Roigard has the best chance of the three. Smith, Roigard and likely Weber would probably be the three best choices to take this year but Weber left the field early last week and could be out for a wee while. That leaves Christie, the currently injured Perenara and Fakatava.

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                            @sparky Williams may be a case of needs must...

                            Bower, Moody and Newell are all out with injuries at the moment but could all be back for the first Rugby Championship match.

                            Lomax and Laulala are the only fit specialist tightheads, and Tu'ungafasi can certainly play there but has mostly been used as a loosehead.

                            If the All Blacks need a new tighthead, you'd have to say that Williams likely has the inside running.

                            I actually think Roigard has the best chance of the three. Smith, Roigard and likely Weber would probably be the three best choices to take this year but Weber left the field early last week and could be out for a wee while. That leaves Christie, the currently injured Perenara and Fakatava.

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                            @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

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                              @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

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                              @Tim I think Moody is due back in time for the TRC but otherwise it'd have to be those three.

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                                I don't see it happening, but Iose has Masoe vibes (can play all three LF positions) and back speed.

                                He wouldn't look out of out place getting a chance at the next level, especially in the AB15 this year. An injury or two and?

                                Beyond his metres on attack, he made 7 and missed none tonight (discipline still an issue).

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                                  @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                  @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

                                  Mafileo as a bolter?

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

                                    Mafileo as a bolter?

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Tim said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                    @Mr-Fish Which looseheads for the RC squad? de Groot, Tu'ungufasi, and Ross?

                                    Mafileo as a bolter?

                                    On the other side, Ainsley has done everything that could be asked and more, to put his hat in the ring.

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                                      Putting where he plays aside, but Naitoa Ah Kuoi impresses me as a utility forward. Maybe too early though.

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                                        Putting where he plays aside, but Naitoa Ah Kuoi impresses me as a utility forward. Maybe too early though.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks World Cup bolters:

                                        Putting where he plays aside, but Naitoa Ah Kuoi impresses me as a utility forward. Maybe too early though.

                                        I was expecting him to play more games at 6 this year than he has done. Certainly a great bench option for lock/6.

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                                          I think the case for Samepeni Finau being tried mid-year is quite compelling now. Ethan Blackadder still not back. Scott Barrett is our option if nobody better shows up. Finau has the attributes for test rugby.

                                          Ainsley is indeed a shot in my view.

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