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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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  • S Steven Harris

    @Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.

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    @Steven-Harris said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.

    Anyone got a gif of EdG doing that cry thing?

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    • S Steven Harris

      @Chris-B Have noticed that on the social network and unfortunately on this forum where there are some who should know better start coming out of the woodwork questioning Razors credentials not only as the Crusaders head coach but the future All Black coach , any other franchise with their sort of injury toll would have already fallen by the wayside at this stage of the competition ..Not sure what part of 5 or is it 6 titles in row people dont get , if they get to the final and thats on the cards you would’nt bet against Razor or the Crusaders.

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      @Steven-Harris

      The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @Steven-Harris

        The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

        @Steven-Harris

        The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

        Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          @Steven-Harris

          The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

          Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

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          @Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          @Steven-Harris

          The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

          Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

          Yeah. One coach's injury list is another coach's inability to select and develop a cohesive squad to cover injuries

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            @Steven-Harris

            The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

            Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

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            @Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            @Steven-Harris

            The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

            Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

            You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?

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              They only lost by one point and the last time these teams meet the Hurricanes won by a much higher score.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.

                They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.

                Right now, I think Razor will be struggling to field a team that can beat the Chiefs. McMillan is a smart coach and he's got the cards in his hand - but, we will see.... if both teams get that far.

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                @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @Steven-Harris I don't have any concerns about our selections for AB coaches and assistant coaches.

                They may end up not winning as much (and what) we want, but they're all good choices.

                Unfortunately circumstances and availability mean you'll never get the best outcome.

                Schmidt didn't want to continue in the role beyond 2023, while Andrew Goodman was never going to be brought out of his Leinster contract after that $450,000 Mooar farce. The only change I wanted to the current group is Goodman as defense coach (he filled that role 2017-2019) with Hansen running the attack strategy & overall gameplan as he's doing this currently for Crusaders, with McDonald working specifically with the outside backs.

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                  @Steven-Harris

                  The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                  @Steven-Harris

                  The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                  There's always snipers waiting. 🙂

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Steven-Harris

                    The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                    Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

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                      @Steven-Harris

                      The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Steven-Harris

                      The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                      He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                        @Steven-Harris

                        The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                        Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

                        You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                          @Steven-Harris

                          The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                          He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

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                          @Machpants

                          The Muppett show continues for a few months yet until it is finally put to death.

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                            Get behind Fozzie now, guys! He is locked in.

                            "I told you so", will bring you little joy on the night we get knocked out.

                            From experience - the only thing that will bring you much joy that day (rugby-wise) is if the Mako win the NPC earlier in the evening! 🙂

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                            • M Machpants

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Steven-Harris

                              The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                              He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

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                              @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                              @Steven-Harris

                              The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                              He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

                              That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest

                              The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                @Steven-Harris

                                The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

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                                @Machpants some of your best work right there talking of coach that gets a whole suitcase of free passes

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Steven-Harris

                                  The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                  He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

                                  That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest

                                  The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                  @Steven-Harris

                                  The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                  He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

                                  That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest

                                  The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.

                                  I disagree, he will be given time, as whatever the 24+ ABs serve up will be better than Foster. No one expects the dominance of the up to '15 ABs, just an improvement on the 17-23. Admittedly if we get worse performances then yes, but I really can't see that. He will be given time by the majority, as everyone knows it takes time to build back from a disaster. I expect that 24 will not be a great year. I just hope to see different tactics than 2015

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    @Steven-Harris

                                    The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                    Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

                                    You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?

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                                    @Chris-B said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    @Bones said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    @Steven-Harris

                                    The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                    Free pass if there's injuries though, as no other team has those.

                                    You think the Crusaders haven't had injuries in the past five years?

                                    Quite the opposite, that's my point. Super coach has only underperformed this year due to injury. Would've taken out every team otherwise.

                                    Poor guy.

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                                      Razor should not be immune to criticism, his assistant choices could've been better, well hey at least Smith's returning (in a significantly reduced capacity) even if it's a nominal role more than anything, I suspect he won't even be present in All Blacks camp, sounds as if he's just continuing his retirement as usual & is going to answer Razor's phone calls on the odd occasion, lol, such a pointless nothing role, Scott Johnson's previous position at Rugby Australia comes to mind..

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                                        @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                        @Steven-Harris

                                        The issue is expectation. Robertson has been so hyped-up on social media (and on here) that anything less than outstanding success pretty quickly is going to attract criticism.

                                        He's not been that hyped up, it just appears that way when he is compared with the complete muppet we've been saddled with for the last 3+years

                                        That's my point - people compare him to Foster. If he doesn't bring back fairly quickly the 30-40 point shellackings we regularly gave the Bokke pre-Foster, the ill-informed stone-throwing will start in earnest

                                        The reality is the Rugby world has changed and power has shifted. Not every AB loss is down to who's the Head Coach and his assistants. Needs time.

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                                        Disagree, majority on here are realists. Not going to be easy to replace Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, Mounga.
                                        Us die hards just want logical planning and selection on a steady upward curve. No more scatter plots!

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew
                                          Disagree, majority on here are realists. Not going to be easy to replace Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, Mounga.
                                          Us die hards just want logical planning and selection on a steady upward curve. No more scatter plots!

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                                          @BerniesCorner said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                          Disagree, majority on here are realists. Not going to be easy to replace Whitelock, Retallick, Smith, Mounga.

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