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All Blacks 2023

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  • C cgrant

    Goodhue and LF are both leaving. Will they be included ?

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    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2023:

    Goodhue and LF are both leaving. Will they be included ?

    So is Whitelock, BBBR, Smith etc. Them leaving should have no bearing on selection this year, it's a RWC year so pick the strongest team available.

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    • G george33

      @sparky yes

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      @george33 said in All Blacks 2023:

      @sparky yes

      Great oil

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        The selection of the props and loose forwards will tell us if Foster/Ryan/Schmidt are conservative or bold. I'm expecting the former.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:

        The selection of the props and loose forwards will tell us if Foster/Ryan/Schmidt are conservative or bold. I'm expecting the former.

        They will probably go with those they think will go best at the RWC. The time to be bold has passed. Core team to be pretty much the same as last year with a few new names like Roigard & Stevenson to see how they go at Test level.

        Interested in who they leave out - Ofa, Caleb Clarke, poss. BB?

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        • S Steve

          @Darren said in All Blacks 2023:

          If Fainga'anuku doesn't make it, and someone like Clarke does, who is a total liability, then I have no hope.

          If big Leicester doesn't make it he can join the list of top super rugby try scorers over looked in the same season. Ben Lam and Ngani Laumape come to mind.

          Surely his omission would be for either political or "character" reasons.

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          @Steve said in All Blacks 2023:

          Surely his omission would be for either political or "character" reasons.

          If rumours are correct on how he managed the step-up last year, they will be wary of a repeat, I guess.

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            No good me guessing at this stage, I do think there will be thought if it better to see a couple of players in ABvx rather than only having bit parts in test teams?

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              Concerned about loosies... Savea and Cane and then who? so many have had multiple opportunities and not really taken them. Frizzel, Akira, Sotutu, should all be sweating bullets ( unfair to include Blackadder with those 3 but he has had so little rugby it may actually count for him) -- Paps and Jacobson I think have done enough - really don't think we lose anything by taking a , Finau, or Lio-willi and see how they go.

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                Is the AB XV announced at the same time?

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                • TimT Tim

                  Is the AB XV announced at the same time?

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Is the AB XV announced at the same time?

                  I believe so. That's a lot of names to read out.

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                    I miss the days when reporters used to stalk out airports ahead of AB squad announcements.

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                    • M Mattasaurus

                      Concerned about loosies... Savea and Cane and then who? so many have had multiple opportunities and not really taken them. Frizzel, Akira, Sotutu, should all be sweating bullets ( unfair to include Blackadder with those 3 but he has had so little rugby it may actually count for him) -- Paps and Jacobson I think have done enough - really don't think we lose anything by taking a , Finau, or Lio-willi and see how they go.

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                      @Mattasaurus Sotutu has never disappointed at AB level, people have short memories eh! Hence the weird recent love for Lio-Willie. People would be calling for Havili-Talitui if Razor had selected him instead.

                      I don't see what Lio-Willie brings that Cane, Savea, Papalii, Blackadder don't. 4 opensides that can play elsewhere is enough.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        I miss the days when reporters used to stalk out airports ahead of AB squad announcements.

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                        @sparky

                        Used to be live under the stands at Athletic Park. Players heard their fate at the same time as everyone else. Some things have improved.

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                          Liam Napier's Sunday predictions:

                          Shaun Stevenson: Will he make the squad - Highly likely
                          Cameron Roigard: Will he make the squad - Likely
                          Tamaiti Williams: Will he make the squad - Highly likely
                          Levi Aumua: Will he make the squad - Unlikely
                          Samipeni Finau: Will he make the squad - Unlikely
                          Emoni Narawa: Will he make the squad - Possible

                          Possible All Blacks squad
                          Props: Ethan de Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Tamaiti Williams, Ofa Tuungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Nepo Laulala

                          Hookers: Samisoni Taukei’aho, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles

                          Locks: Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa’i, Josh Lord

                          Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Dalton Papali’i, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson

                          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Cam Roigard

                          First-five: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie

                          Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Braydon Ennor

                          Outside backs: Will Jordan, Caleb Clarke, Mark Telea, Shaun Stevenson, Leicester Fainga’anuku

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                            Liam Napier's Sunday predictions:

                            Shaun Stevenson: Will he make the squad - Highly likely
                            Cameron Roigard: Will he make the squad - Likely
                            Tamaiti Williams: Will he make the squad - Highly likely
                            Levi Aumua: Will he make the squad - Unlikely
                            Samipeni Finau: Will he make the squad - Unlikely
                            Emoni Narawa: Will he make the squad - Possible

                            Possible All Blacks squad
                            Props: Ethan de Groot, Tyrel Lomax, Tamaiti Williams, Ofa Tuungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Nepo Laulala

                            Hookers: Samisoni Taukei’aho, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles

                            Locks: Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa’i, Josh Lord

                            Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Dalton Papali’i, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson

                            Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Cam Roigard

                            First-five: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie

                            Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Braydon Ennor

                            Outside backs: Will Jordan, Caleb Clarke, Mark Telea, Shaun Stevenson, Leicester Fainga’anuku

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                            @Tim Looks about right. Foster might well go with Christie and Jack Goodhue though.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @Tim Looks about right. Foster might well go with Christie and Jack Goodhue though.

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                              @sparky Josh?

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @sparky Josh?

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                                @Stargazer Sorry Jack.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Mattasaurus Sotutu has never disappointed at AB level, people have short memories eh! Hence the weird recent love for Lio-Willie. People would be calling for Havili-Talitui if Razor had selected him instead.

                                  I don't see what Lio-Willie brings that Cane, Savea, Papalii, Blackadder don't. 4 opensides that can play elsewhere is enough.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Mattasaurus Sotutu has never disappointed at AB level, people have short memories eh! Hence the weird recent love for Lio-Willie. People would be calling for Havili-Talitui if Razor had selected him instead.

                                  I don't see what Lio-Willie brings that Cane, Savea, Papalii, Blackadder don't. 4 opensides that can play elsewhere is enough.

                                  Yeah it wasn't long ago a few posters were saying the Highlanders ended up with the better loosies after Lio-Willie switched to the Saders. He is doing the job asked of him at the Saders. Doesn't mean he should be an AB.

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                                    Not long to go now. The squad will be named on The Breakdown. Hopefully around 7.35pm. So you've got a few minutes to do the dishes.

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                                      Toddy
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                                      Akira dropped?

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                                        Can't stand that they've picked Shannon

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                                          Can't stand that they've picked Christie over Weber.

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