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All Blacks 2023

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  • TimT Tim

    "We see Dallas primarily as a midfielder. Probably 12. Chance to have a look at him there. He brings versatility. Played on the wing. Fast and strong. Courageous under the ball. Chance, in a bigger squad, to bring him in and give him a chance."

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

    "We see Dallas primarily as a midfielder. Probably 12. Chance to have a look at him there. He brings versatility. Played on the wing. Fast and strong. Courageous under the ball. Chance, in a bigger squad, to bring him in and give him a chance."

    Quite late in the day to be developing a midfielder. Hasn’t proven to be an easy position. High injury rate though.

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      I would much prefer a Weber Dmac combo then Finlay and BB. It's strange that some players get picked on experience and others don't. Goodhue is one of the reason the Crusaders are firing and makes Ennor look good. I would much rather his experience over Dallas.

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        Just cant see how Nepo and Ofa make it. Again.
        Also how does F Christie get in ahead of Fakatava.

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          I would much prefer a Weber Dmac combo then Finlay and BB. It's strange that some players get picked on experience and others don't. Goodhue is one of the reason the Crusaders are firing and makes Ennor look good. I would much rather his experience over Dallas.

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          @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:

          I would much prefer a Weber Dmac combo then Finlay and BB. It's strange that some players get picked on experience and others don't. Goodhue is one of the reason the Crusaders are firing and makes Ennor look good. I would much rather his experience over Dallas.

          Maybe he's in the AB XV to ease him back into rep rugby.

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            Dallas Macleod is listed at over 100 kg, pretty descent sized midfielder if he goes well he will definitely be in Razor's squad next year.

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              @sparky foster clear players got scratched after the semis. One of those perhaps?

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              @MajorRage said in All Blacks 2023:

              @sparky foster clear players got scratched after the semis. One of those perhaps?

              Or Heem?

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                Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

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                • S SBW1

                  Dallas Macleod is listed at over 100 kg, pretty descent sized midfielder if he goes well he will definitely be in Razor's squad next year.

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                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                  Dallas Macleod is listed at over 100 kg, pretty descent sized midfielder if he goes well he will definitely be in Razor's squad next year.

                  He has played well this year. But not a lot in midfield in pressure games.

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                    Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

                    And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

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                      Frizell ,Christie and CC .... I just don't see what they have done to get picked.

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                      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @akan004 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Looks like they don't rate Levi Aumua at all.

                        Foster made it clear a few weeks ago that defence was vital for midfield.

                        yet Goodhue - Crusaders best player on both sides of ball on Friday didn't make it..

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                        @kiwi_expat

                        One or two good moments and his D was v. good, but apart from that, pretty average and didn't look all that match fit. Def. not out of the frame and good move from Foster to give him and people like Fakatava match time in the AB XV.

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                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

                          And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

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                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

                          And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

                          His low work rate and habit of slipping over when changing direction should have counted against him.

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2023:

                            Dallas Macleod is listed at over 100 kg, pretty descent sized midfielder if he goes well he will definitely be in Razor's squad next year.

                            He has played well this year. But not a lot in midfield in pressure games.

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                            @kev IIRC he shifted to the midfield in several games after subs in the 2nd half.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

                              And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

                              His low work rate and habit of slipping over when changing direction should have counted against him.

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                              @kev said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                              Stevenson can count himself very unlucky after the season he's had

                              And Clarke can count himself very lucky after the seasons he's had.

                              His low work rate and habit of slipping over when changing direction should have counted against him.

                              He's fixed the slipping over thing but the defence and workrate issues mean he's very lucky.

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                                A liitle shocked SS did’nt make the intial team as opposed to injury cover
                                Not surprised both Akira and Sotutu did’nt make the cut
                                Surprised at both Finau and Mcleod making the cut but based on form fair enough
                                Only issue i have is Finlay Christie ,hardly an influence at super level and he has’nt set the world on fire in a black jersey and not to mention his service from the base with is mediocre
                                Can understand the annoyance around Nepo but he can scrum but he will need to be way better in other facets
                                Only good thing is , this is not the Rugby World Cup Squad

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                                  Lol, something to piss off everyone. Several hilarious selections.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad was selected by the All Blacks coaching team of Ian Foster, Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup against Japan XV and Brave Blossoms.
                                    The squad includes nine players with Test experience including Aidan Ross, Asafo Aumua, Akira Ioane, Pita Gus Sowakula, Brad Weber, Folau Fakatava, Stephen Perofeta, Brett Cameron and Jack Goodhue.

                                    Following their inaugural Northern tour last year, Leon MacDonald has again been named as All Blacks XV Head Coach alongside Assistant Coaches Clayton McMillan and Scott Hansen.

                                    The 30-strong All Blacks XV squad is as follows (age, Super Rugby club, province):

                                    Forwards:

                                    Props
                                    Jermaine Ainsley (28, Highlanders, Otago)
                                    Oli Jager (27, Crusaders, Canterbury)
                                    Tevita Mafileo (25, Hurricanes, Bay of Plenty)
                                    Xavier Numia (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                    Aidan Ross (27, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)

                                    Hookers
                                    Asafo Aumua (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                    Ricky Riccitelli (28, Blues, Taranaki)
                                    Tyrone Thompson (23, Chiefs, Wellington)

                                    Locks
                                    Naitoa Ah Kuoi (23, Chiefs, Bay of Plenty)
                                    Quinten Strange (26, Crusaders, Ta$man)
                                    Isaia Walker-Leawere (26, Hurricanes, Hawke’s Bay)

                                    Loose Forwards
                                    Billy Harmon (28, Highlanders, Canterbury)
                                    Akira Ioane (28, Blues, Auckland)
                                    Du’Plessis Kirifi (26, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                    Christian Lio-Willie (24, Crusaders, Otago)
                                    Pita Gus Sowakula (28, Chiefs, Taranaki)
                                    Cameron Suafoa (27, Blues, North Harbour)

                                    Backs:
                                    Halfbacks
                                    Folau Fakatava (23, Highlanders, Hawke’s Bay)
                                    Brad Weber (32, Chiefs, Hawke’s Bay)

                                    First-five-eighths
                                    Brett Cameron (26, Hurricanes, Manawatū)
                                    Stephen Perofeta (26, Blues, Taranaki)

                                    Midfielders
                                    Jack Goodhue (27, Crusaders, Northland)
                                    Alex Nankivell (26, Chiefs, Ta$man)
                                    Billy Proctor (24, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                    Bailyn Sullivan (24, Hurricanes, Waikato)

                                    Outside Backs
                                    Sam Gilbert (24, Highlanders, Otago)
                                    AJ Lam (24, Blues, Auckland)
                                    Ruben Love (22, Hurricanes, Wellington)
                                    Etene Nanai-Seturo (23, Chiefs, Counties Manukau)
                                    Jona Nareki (25, Highlanders, Otago)

                                    The All Blacks XV assemble on 29 June, travelling to Tokyo where they compete for the 2023 Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup kicking off Saturday 8 July, at Tokyo’s historic Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium in Tokyo before a second match on Saturday, July 15 at Egao Kenko Stadium in Kumamoto.

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                                    @Tim Apart from Hoskins, I'm struggling to think of any surprise omissions.

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                                      @kev IIRC he shifted to the midfield in several games after subs in the 2nd half.

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                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @kev IIRC he shifted to the midfield in several games after subs in the 2nd half.

                                      He is a good player and on form a good option for squad. But it’s a big challenge defending in the midfield so more time would be better. Still have some concerns about Reiko ( who is an athletic freak, and good tackler, see Friday performance ) with all the time he has had there in the last 2 years.

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                                        I suspect the injury to Telea might have allowed the selectors to have the best of both worlds.

                                        Unsurprisingly, Stevenson needs to continue with the improvements that he has made in defence.

                                        ... Chiefs coach Clayton McMillan has been a vocal advocate of higher honours for Stevenson. Instead, the 27-year-old will provide injury cover for Mark Telea, who picked up a knock in the Blues' exit from Super Rugby.

                                        Asked what more Stevenson needed to do to be named as a fulltime squad member, though, coach Foster outlined the exact area he wants to see the Chiefs fullback improve in, with time running out for uncapped players to earn selection.

                                        "He'll find that out when he comes in," Foster told Sky Sport. "We've got pretty specific job requirements on both sides of the ball.

                                        "On the attack side, he's proven to be outstanding. He should be very proud of his year.

                                        "We've seen a massive improvement in the defensive structural stuff, the tackle and the contact work. But we still want to see a bit more in that space.

                                        "The fact he's going to come in, and be with us maybe for those first two tests, is a great opportunity to get a good read of that."

                                        Source: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/06/rugby-why-chiefs-standout-shaun-stevenson-was-overlooked-by-ian-foster-for-first-all-blacks-squad.html

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                                          Interesting they appear to rate Christie ahead of Weber at half-back. Would have thought the Weber-DMac combination was a no-brainer. Also surprised at Goodhue being dropped back to the XV squad. His combination with Ennor has been special. Lastly, why leave Stevenson out? He seems to me a perfect fit for test rugby - an X-factor player who makes few mistakes.

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